Buddhist Art and the Trade Routes
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Wow, thanks for all that, meehawl!
posted by homunculus at 4:32 PM on May 6, 2004
posted by homunculus at 4:32 PM on May 6, 2004
"Through contact with Christian missionaries, many Buddhists were attracted to Christianity. To counteract this, Buddhism was forced to invent a redeemer and to prophesy the second coming of Buddha under this Japanese title, "Meitreya"."
Does 'Maitreya' make no appearance in the Theravadan scriptures, as the Buddha to come?
posted by Blue Stone at 4:49 PM on May 6, 2004
Does 'Maitreya' make no appearance in the Theravadan scriptures, as the Buddha to come?
posted by Blue Stone at 4:49 PM on May 6, 2004
Wow, talk about the best of the internet! Homunculous & Meehawl, this is fantastic. I would write more, but I'm going back to this site. Absolutely amazing.
posted by gesamtkunstwerk at 6:14 PM on May 6, 2004
posted by gesamtkunstwerk at 6:14 PM on May 6, 2004
Does 'Maitreya' make no appearance in the Theravadan scriptures, as the Buddha to come?
Of course, the idea of the bodhisattvas in Hinduism predates Siddhartha Gautama, as the concept of the self-realized or mysitcally appointed messiah god-man figure is a common theme in Indo-European cultures. There has doubtless been much cross-fertilization over the ages. How else to explain the undoubted similarities between Osiris, Mithra, and Jesus? It's interesting to note that Guatama Buddha himself has been absorbed at various times into the Christian theology as a saint, most notably as Josaphat.
Of course, what varies more is the degree to which cultures emphasize or de-emphasize the messianic angles of their theology in accordance with local expectations and historical receptivity.
In 9th century Xi'An, Buddhism was competing for converts with Christianity, Zoroastrianism and Manichaeism, all of which emphasised a dualistic struggle and a redeemer. It comes then as no surprise that the expression of local Buddhist theology leaned heavily on the Theravadan writings and impetus. And that Kobo-Daishi should have absorbed such definite messianic theories from his time spent in Xi'An.
posted by meehawl at 6:21 PM on May 6, 2004
Of course, the idea of the bodhisattvas in Hinduism predates Siddhartha Gautama, as the concept of the self-realized or mysitcally appointed messiah god-man figure is a common theme in Indo-European cultures. There has doubtless been much cross-fertilization over the ages. How else to explain the undoubted similarities between Osiris, Mithra, and Jesus? It's interesting to note that Guatama Buddha himself has been absorbed at various times into the Christian theology as a saint, most notably as Josaphat.
Of course, what varies more is the degree to which cultures emphasize or de-emphasize the messianic angles of their theology in accordance with local expectations and historical receptivity.
In 9th century Xi'An, Buddhism was competing for converts with Christianity, Zoroastrianism and Manichaeism, all of which emphasised a dualistic struggle and a redeemer. It comes then as no surprise that the expression of local Buddhist theology leaned heavily on the Theravadan writings and impetus. And that Kobo-Daishi should have absorbed such definite messianic theories from his time spent in Xi'An.
posted by meehawl at 6:21 PM on May 6, 2004
Of course, the idea of the bodhisattvas in Hinduism predates Siddhartha Gautama,
This is a surprise to me. I thought that the Theraveda held to the ideal of the arahant rather than the bodhisattva, and that Maitreya and the other deific bodhisattvas were distinctively Mahayana figures.
a common theme in Indo-European cultures.
Here's another thread about common Indo-European themes.
posted by homunculus at 8:23 PM on May 6, 2004
This is a surprise to me. I thought that the Theraveda held to the ideal of the arahant rather than the bodhisattva, and that Maitreya and the other deific bodhisattvas were distinctively Mahayana figures.
a common theme in Indo-European cultures.
Here's another thread about common Indo-European themes.
posted by homunculus at 8:23 PM on May 6, 2004
Maitreya and the other deific bodhisattvas were distinctively Mahayana figures
You are probably more correct - I am being too loose with my Sanskrit terms...
posted by meehawl at 9:02 PM on May 6, 2004
You are probably more correct - I am being too loose with my Sanskrit terms...
posted by meehawl at 9:02 PM on May 6, 2004
Wow, so much great information! Thanks homunculus and meehawl.
posted by lobakgo at 10:26 AM on May 7, 2004
posted by lobakgo at 10:26 AM on May 7, 2004
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Nestorians were an ancient Eastern Roman Christian sect. Began to feel some heat when they were judged to be heretical so they tried expanding eastwards from the Roman Empire. Several historical developments and local tribal political shifts ensured highly developed trade routes for several generations.
One link with Buddhism is that the Nestorians coexisted reasonably well in China, even going so far as to develop some of their Christology in terms of the Chinese culture of the day, which led to some interesting theological developments and artwork. But eventually the Nestorians were undone because of their perceived similarity to Buddhism. The new Emperor Tang Wu Zong backed the Confucians and Daoists against the Buddhists. and like Henry 8th in England much later, used perceptions of their decadence to seize their lands and property. To the Emperor (and to many Chinese of the day), Christianity seemed like a weird offshoot of Buddhism so they suppressed the Nestorians as well. However, during its existence Nestorianism hybridized with Buddhism through the medium of a Shinto-funded emissary from Japan, Kukai, during the early 9th century to give birth to the syncretic Shingon Buddhism, still widely extant today, which posits a Messianic figure as a reedeemer of sins, the Maitreya/Miroku. Shingon Buddhism also fused ideas from Zoroastrianism and Manichaeism, both of which along with Nestorian Christianity had active establishments within Xi'an.
One contribution of this influence of early Christianity on Asian art was the development of characteristic stones and steles fusing Chinese and Mediterranean Christianity in interesting ways. One such tablet from the great trade city of Xi'An bears an uncanny resemblance in its hybridism to similar contemporaneous stone crosses and monuments of Celtic Christianity:
The catchy well-titled A Monument Commemorating the Propagation of the Ta-Chin Luminous Religion in the Middle Kingdom contains inscriptions in both Chinese and Syrian. It contains a stylized cross combined with serpents/dragons, calls God "Veritable Majesty" and references Genesis, the cross, and the baptism. It notably also uses many Judaic constructs, including the Jewish Sabbath, because of the Nestorian Church's close Middle Eastern affinities, as opposed to the more Westernized Roman and Orthodox Churches.
The inscription has an typically luxuriant Chinese literary take on an obvious Gnostic/John-influenced theology: But they were capable of boiling it down to some less florid prose, coupled with the customary toadying...posted by meehawl at 3:43 PM on May 6, 2004