pendulum continues to swing swing back to the left
June 2, 2004 12:17 AM Subscribe
I was seeing her ad on TPM for weeks; I wonder how much revenue she earned from grassroots planted outside of South Dakota.
On the other hand, I wonder how much your average candidate gets from out-of-state big-spender contribution funnelling... I imagine Cheney's got enough dough to send $2000 to each Republican trying for a national seat, for example.
posted by kaibutsu at 2:28 AM on June 2, 2004
On the other hand, I wonder how much your average candidate gets from out-of-state big-spender contribution funnelling... I imagine Cheney's got enough dough to send $2000 to each Republican trying for a national seat, for example.
posted by kaibutsu at 2:28 AM on June 2, 2004
Reading the commentary on the DailyKos link is like reading sports commentary...
"If we keep the full court press on, it'll reduce the resources available to the GOP to spend on each race. Come November Diedrich isn't going to have the internal-GOP starpower that he had this month... especially if DeLay is pinned down in Texas. "
Of course, I guess it's not unprecedented. This guy was so good at the political stuff that they gave him tenure down at ESPN...
posted by kaibutsu at 2:34 AM on June 2, 2004
"If we keep the full court press on, it'll reduce the resources available to the GOP to spend on each race. Come November Diedrich isn't going to have the internal-GOP starpower that he had this month... especially if DeLay is pinned down in Texas. "
Of course, I guess it's not unprecedented. This guy was so good at the political stuff that they gave him tenure down at ESPN...
posted by kaibutsu at 2:34 AM on June 2, 2004
specialk420, as a known Democratic partisan ;-), is posting something to make all those who support the Democrats make feel a little more confident. Especially in South Dakota where the race was close. Although Space Coyote's link did provide a nice quotation:
"I think the real point is you judge a person by the friends they keep, and look where she's focusing her fund-raising efforts," Glodt said. "Anybody can look at these blogs and the content, and realize the values they are promoting are completely contradictory to the South Dakota values she purports to represent."
posted by Gnatcho at 4:43 AM on June 2, 2004
"I think the real point is you judge a person by the friends they keep, and look where she's focusing her fund-raising efforts," Glodt said. "Anybody can look at these blogs and the content, and realize the values they are promoting are completely contradictory to the South Dakota values she purports to represent."
posted by Gnatcho at 4:43 AM on June 2, 2004
Secret website, indeed. Who would ever think to look for hersethforcongress.org? Especially when her opponent had diedrichforcongress.com?
posted by MrMoonPie at 6:02 AM on June 2, 2004
posted by MrMoonPie at 6:02 AM on June 2, 2004
MrMoonPie, the "secret site" is this page, which is the one you arrive at when clicking on an ad found on blogs. The donation page isn't referenced on her main site.
It's a pathetic claim that this is "secret", a custom donate page for specific ads is a totally normal thing found on many candidates' sites. There's nothing remotely illegal about it, so I don't know why her opponents tried to make it seem sinister. I suppose they had nothing better to attack her with.
posted by mathowie at 8:23 AM on June 2, 2004
It's a pathetic claim that this is "secret", a custom donate page for specific ads is a totally normal thing found on many candidates' sites. There's nothing remotely illegal about it, so I don't know why her opponents tried to make it seem sinister. I suppose they had nothing better to attack her with.
posted by mathowie at 8:23 AM on June 2, 2004
Glenwood: Well, yes and no.
posted by chicobangs at 8:31 AM on June 2, 2004
posted by chicobangs at 8:31 AM on June 2, 2004
Gnatcho, does this mean I can safely ignore this thread and . . . whoa, check her out. She is HOT HOT HOT!!!!
posted by Outlawyr at 8:43 AM on June 2, 2004
posted by Outlawyr at 8:43 AM on June 2, 2004
While I congratulate her on her election to Congress, I have to admit that I liked her better when she was the host of Trading Spaces.
posted by mathis23 at 8:49 AM on June 2, 2004
posted by mathis23 at 8:49 AM on June 2, 2004
Great news, and i hope we do as well in taking back the Senate. : >
(and mathis--lol)
posted by amberglow at 8:54 AM on June 2, 2004
(and mathis--lol)
posted by amberglow at 8:54 AM on June 2, 2004
Wow, she's only a couple years older than me.
posted by SisterHavana at 9:06 AM on June 2, 2004
posted by SisterHavana at 9:06 AM on June 2, 2004
pendulum continues to swing back to the left
This pendulum . . . does it vibrate? Actually, I thought this was the pendulum in D.C. specialk420 was talking about, but it looks like they've taken it down.
Wow, she's only a couple years older than me.
Herseth does indeed look like she should be running for sorority president, instead of the U.S. House, but her bio indicates she's more than just a pretty (or is that HOT HOT HOT?) face.
In addition to being named one of Georgetown's five most outstanding seniors, Herseth graduated summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa with a B.A. in Government and received the Justice Edmund Douglas White Medal for outstanding service to her community. Herseth next graduated with honors from the Georgetown University Law Center and was a senior editor of the law review.
posted by LeLiLo at 9:16 AM on June 2, 2004
This pendulum . . . does it vibrate? Actually, I thought this was the pendulum in D.C. specialk420 was talking about, but it looks like they've taken it down.
Wow, she's only a couple years older than me.
Herseth does indeed look like she should be running for sorority president, instead of the U.S. House, but her bio indicates she's more than just a pretty (or is that HOT HOT HOT?) face.
In addition to being named one of Georgetown's five most outstanding seniors, Herseth graduated summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa with a B.A. in Government and received the Justice Edmund Douglas White Medal for outstanding service to her community. Herseth next graduated with honors from the Georgetown University Law Center and was a senior editor of the law review.
posted by LeLiLo at 9:16 AM on June 2, 2004
specialk420, as a known Democratic partisan ;-), is posting something to make all those who support the Democrats make feel a little more confident.
MetaFilter: Making Those Who Support The Democrats Feel A Little More Confident
Coming soon: steve_at_linwood, as a known Republican partisan ;-), will post something to make all those who support the Republicans feel a little more confident.
posted by pardonyou? at 9:19 AM on June 2, 2004
MetaFilter: Making Those Who Support The Democrats Feel A Little More Confident
Coming soon: steve_at_linwood, as a known Republican partisan ;-), will post something to make all those who support the Republicans feel a little more confident.
posted by pardonyou? at 9:19 AM on June 2, 2004
Oink.
* roots around for a sexy-smelling truffle *
posted by troutfishing at 10:12 AM on June 2, 2004
* roots around for a sexy-smelling truffle *
posted by troutfishing at 10:12 AM on June 2, 2004
For some reason when I read skallas' post I let go of his metaphor and thought that “She looked real good last night, but now that the kool-aid has worn off she ain't so pretty in the morning light” referred to Herseth. And then I thought it was a really strange comment by skallas on the Democrats' “electability”.
Luckily, the pendulum swung back to sanity in my case and meaning was restored.
posted by Gnatcho at 10:53 AM on June 2, 2004
Luckily, the pendulum swung back to sanity in my case and meaning was restored.
posted by Gnatcho at 10:53 AM on June 2, 2004
hmmmm.... what should I post.....
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 11:11 AM on June 2, 2004
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 11:11 AM on June 2, 2004
Steve, just pick some NewsFilter piece about some Republican who gets elected, link to an InstaPundit article about the election, and then talk about "the tide turning," or some such cliche. Based on the general reaction to this post, you should expect yours to be well received. After all, posts designed to make members of a particular political party "feel more confident" are apparently in good form.
posted by pardonyou? at 11:27 AM on June 2, 2004
posted by pardonyou? at 11:27 AM on June 2, 2004
I heard they've got some pills for confidence these days.
posted by troutfishing at 11:44 AM on June 2, 2004
posted by troutfishing at 11:44 AM on June 2, 2004
...and if she's photogenic and nationally unknown, S@L, all the better.
We still don't know much about Herseth Herself. We've all just seen her today, and there can't be many South Dakotans here (are there any?) to verify her credentials, her attitude, her ability to make points, what points she makes, y'know, how good she is at politics.
She's got a pedigree, but pedigrees don't always portend ability.
posted by chicobangs at 11:45 AM on June 2, 2004
We still don't know much about Herseth Herself. We've all just seen her today, and there can't be many South Dakotans here (are there any?) to verify her credentials, her attitude, her ability to make points, what points she makes, y'know, how good she is at politics.
She's got a pedigree, but pedigrees don't always portend ability.
posted by chicobangs at 11:45 AM on June 2, 2004
Especially when her opponent had diedrichforcongress.com?
Didn't he run against Ashcroft in 2000?
hmmmm.... what should I post.....
How about something original for a change?
posted by inpHilltr8r at 12:07 PM on June 2, 2004
Didn't he run against Ashcroft in 2000?
hmmmm.... what should I post.....
How about something original for a change?
posted by inpHilltr8r at 12:07 PM on June 2, 2004
Hah, that is funny inpHilltr8r. Have you looked at the front page lately?
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 12:29 PM on June 2, 2004
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 12:29 PM on June 2, 2004
She's not very liberal, and supports some of the more dangerous (IMHO) policies of the Bush administration, but really, at this point, and against my normal 'look at each person, not their party' I'll take every Dem we can get as a win.
posted by John Kenneth Fisher at 12:40 PM on June 2, 2004
posted by John Kenneth Fisher at 12:40 PM on June 2, 2004
pick some NewsFilter piece about some Republican who gets elected
hahaha... wouldn't you love to be running on george and dick's coattails as a republican right now, boys...
posted by specialk420 at 1:24 PM on June 2, 2004
hahaha... wouldn't you love to be running on george and dick's coattails as a republican right now, boys...
posted by specialk420 at 1:24 PM on June 2, 2004
wouldn't you love to be running on george and dick's coattails as a republican right now, boys..
It seems to have work out rather nicely in 2002... my how quickly you forget...
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 1:53 PM on June 2, 2004
It seems to have work out rather nicely in 2002... my how quickly you forget...
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 1:53 PM on June 2, 2004
think back to '94, Steve--that's the way this year is going, so far, and we're the Gingrich group.
posted by amberglow at 2:03 PM on June 2, 2004
posted by amberglow at 2:03 PM on June 2, 2004
Pendulum swings right, pendulum swings left.
Always, though, it bears down little by little.
So who is in the pit ?
posted by troutfishing at 2:21 PM on June 2, 2004
Always, though, it bears down little by little.
So who is in the pit ?
posted by troutfishing at 2:21 PM on June 2, 2004
Have you looked at the front page lately?
Looks like MeFi to me. If you don't like it, why not try something constructive, rather than threatening to shit in the pool again.
posted by inpHilltr8r at 5:26 PM on June 2, 2004
Looks like MeFi to me. If you don't like it, why not try something constructive, rather than threatening to shit in the pool again.
posted by inpHilltr8r at 5:26 PM on June 2, 2004
Time to eat some humble pie, nutters.
you know, this is why I sincerely regret Dean did not get the nomination. because I kind of figure his campaing using this tagline for promotional T-Shirts. it would have been much, much funnier.
hmmmm.... what should I post.....
I don't know, what about "the guy who dragged America into the Iraqi mess is actually an Iranian spy!" ? sounds interesting, it's like an episode of "Punk'd" with Chalabi instead of Ashton Kutchner. I mean, a Punk'd episode that cost 800 American deaths and counting, plus US $ 200,000,000,000 -- front page worthy, isn't it
Pendulum swings right, pendulum swings left.
then it looks very very bleak for Kerry. the Democrats have won the last three Presidential elections, they're bound to lose one pretty soon. hard to win four or five in a row, isn't it? (well, FDR is an exception)
posted by matteo at 5:37 PM on June 2, 2004
you know, this is why I sincerely regret Dean did not get the nomination. because I kind of figure his campaing using this tagline for promotional T-Shirts. it would have been much, much funnier.
hmmmm.... what should I post.....
I don't know, what about "the guy who dragged America into the Iraqi mess is actually an Iranian spy!" ? sounds interesting, it's like an episode of "Punk'd" with Chalabi instead of Ashton Kutchner. I mean, a Punk'd episode that cost 800 American deaths and counting, plus US $ 200,000,000,000 -- front page worthy, isn't it
Pendulum swings right, pendulum swings left.
then it looks very very bleak for Kerry. the Democrats have won the last three Presidential elections, they're bound to lose one pretty soon. hard to win four or five in a row, isn't it? (well, FDR is an exception)
posted by matteo at 5:37 PM on June 2, 2004
What is this? The 2nd Democratic special election win? Kerry's crappy campaign is neck to neck with Bush's uber-spend campaign?
And Obama is polling far ahead in the battle for an open GOP senate seat in IL, which combined with one other senate win (or with McCain taking a cabinet position and having his replacement chosen by a Democratic governor) in November would give the Democrats the Senate and thus confirmation power over as many as four Supreme Court nominations in the next four years.
But a note of caution to excited liberals: the two recent special-election victories highlighted the fundraising power of blogs, but that power will be greatly dilluted when spread out among hundreds of races rather than focused on one. I'm much less likely to send 10 bucks to a candidate in South Dakota or Kentucky in November than I am now, as there will be important races closer to home.
posted by Ignatius J. Reilly at 9:23 PM on June 2, 2004
And Obama is polling far ahead in the battle for an open GOP senate seat in IL, which combined with one other senate win (or with McCain taking a cabinet position and having his replacement chosen by a Democratic governor) in November would give the Democrats the Senate and thus confirmation power over as many as four Supreme Court nominations in the next four years.
But a note of caution to excited liberals: the two recent special-election victories highlighted the fundraising power of blogs, but that power will be greatly dilluted when spread out among hundreds of races rather than focused on one. I'm much less likely to send 10 bucks to a candidate in South Dakota or Kentucky in November than I am now, as there will be important races closer to home.
posted by Ignatius J. Reilly at 9:23 PM on June 2, 2004
IJR: The thing is, while the blogs were certainly focused on the special elections, the republican direct-mail campaigns weren't exactly letting them go by unnoticed either. So if blogs trump direct mail and other traditional republican methods here, at least one can believe they will be a little more effective in November than what the Dems had previously, nothing.
posted by Space Coyote at 9:47 PM on June 2, 2004
posted by Space Coyote at 9:47 PM on June 2, 2004
Space Coyote:
Agreed. I also think that the GOP direct-mail strategy became so killer after they adopted the Gingrich strategy of running someone for every seat, post, and position, even the longshots, as a way of tying up the other aprty's resources and disallowing the safe incumbents from fundraising for their colleagues who are facing a real challenge. For the first time ever, Democrats are trying to do this as well, thanks to a certain new PAC.
posted by Ignatius J. Reilly at 11:00 PM on June 2, 2004
Agreed. I also think that the GOP direct-mail strategy became so killer after they adopted the Gingrich strategy of running someone for every seat, post, and position, even the longshots, as a way of tying up the other aprty's resources and disallowing the safe incumbents from fundraising for their colleagues who are facing a real challenge. For the first time ever, Democrats are trying to do this as well, thanks to a certain new PAC.
posted by Ignatius J. Reilly at 11:00 PM on June 2, 2004
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