Trial by news conference
June 15, 2004 12:19 PM Subscribe
Laywer/novelist Scott Turow (non-wp, non-reg-req. link) and Nat Hentoff discuss the DOJ's decision to release a declassified document detailing the possible charges against Jose Padilla, at the same time as the U.S. Supreme Court nears a decision on the constitutionality of holding Padilla without due process ... "So at this point, you have no plans to present any of this to a grand jury?"
The Justice Department's triumphant victory over the Constitution.
"No one at the DOJ seems even to have pondered whether the public would credulously accept the truth of a document that—by its own admission—is a product of secret government interrogations. The lesson of Abu Ghraib was that we no longer trust what happens in dark dungeons, where the rule of law has been cast aside. To reassure us, the Justice Department responds with the assurance that no one there trusts what happens in the bright light of a constitutional democracy."
posted by homunculus at 12:42 PM on June 15, 2004
"No one at the DOJ seems even to have pondered whether the public would credulously accept the truth of a document that—by its own admission—is a product of secret government interrogations. The lesson of Abu Ghraib was that we no longer trust what happens in dark dungeons, where the rule of law has been cast aside. To reassure us, the Justice Department responds with the assurance that no one there trusts what happens in the bright light of a constitutional democracy."
posted by homunculus at 12:42 PM on June 15, 2004
This is why I love metafilter. I just got done reading Scott Turow's book, One L the other day. It was a captivating book, I read straight through it. For anyone considering law school, I would highly recommend it. Great post.
posted by banished at 1:15 PM on June 15, 2004
posted by banished at 1:15 PM on June 15, 2004
Paul Krugman: "John Ashcroft is the worst attorney general in history."
posted by homunculus at 1:24 PM on June 15, 2004
posted by homunculus at 1:24 PM on June 15, 2004
"No one at the DOJ seems even to have pondered whether the public would credulously accept the truth of a document that—by its own admission—is a product of secret government interrogations"
Does anyone think that the public really cares about this? Does anyone think that Joe Sixpack in Moberly, MO gives a fuck? No. The majority of the public will believe what they are presented with and what they are told to believe as most are just too goddamn lazy to read any other sources.
I say we just pull the constitution now and get it the hell over with.
posted by damnitkage at 2:51 PM on June 15, 2004
Does anyone think that the public really cares about this? Does anyone think that Joe Sixpack in Moberly, MO gives a fuck? No. The majority of the public will believe what they are presented with and what they are told to believe as most are just too goddamn lazy to read any other sources.
I say we just pull the constitution now and get it the hell over with.
posted by damnitkage at 2:51 PM on June 15, 2004
At least now torturing him is perfectly legal.
So, whatever they had to do to get him to say he was al Qaeda, it was part and parcel of American democracy.
What a relief.
posted by sacre_bleu at 3:15 PM on June 15, 2004
So, whatever they had to do to get him to say he was al Qaeda, it was part and parcel of American democracy.
What a relief.
posted by sacre_bleu at 3:15 PM on June 15, 2004
Banished, I agree and would go so far as to say that it's his best book, all the rest are legal boilerplate fiction except possibly Presumed Innocent. But then that was tortured on film, so who cares?
posted by billsaysthis at 7:28 PM on June 15, 2004
posted by billsaysthis at 7:28 PM on June 15, 2004
Paul Krugman: "John Ashcroft is the worst attorney general in history."
Merle Haggard and John Derbyshire of the National Review have long been on the same page--rhetorically speaking, that is.
posted by y2karl at 7:53 PM on June 15, 2004
Merle Haggard and John Derbyshire of the National Review have long been on the same page--rhetorically speaking, that is.
posted by y2karl at 7:53 PM on June 15, 2004
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Land of the Free ? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
posted by daveg at 12:35 PM on June 15, 2004