Oponents Jam phone Lines
July 1, 2004 11:30 AM Subscribe
What would you do if your opponent's elderly constituents needed a ride to vote? Jam their phone lines of course.
Well, hell. Those voters the Republicans disenfranchised probably were all just traitorous pro-Saddam-ites anyway.
And besides, nobody ever said democracy was a Republican "family value".
Josh Marshall had an early line on the story:
Rather than trying to turn out GOP voters, they figured it would just be easier to sabotage the Democrats’ get-out-the-vote operation instead.... But there were a lot of close races last year [2002]. Was New Hampshire the only place GOP Marketplace was up to no good? Maybe not.
posted by fold_and_mutilate at 11:57 AM on July 1, 2004
And besides, nobody ever said democracy was a Republican "family value".
Josh Marshall had an early line on the story:
Rather than trying to turn out GOP voters, they figured it would just be easier to sabotage the Democrats’ get-out-the-vote operation instead.... But there were a lot of close races last year [2002]. Was New Hampshire the only place GOP Marketplace was up to no good? Maybe not.
posted by fold_and_mutilate at 11:57 AM on July 1, 2004
Why hire a telemarketing firm, Marketplace LLC, for your dirty work, when a pair of wire cutters does the same minus a paper trail? Meaning, was this a business hired for jamming or a telemarketing firm gone bad?
posted by thomcatspike at 12:05 PM on July 1, 2004
posted by thomcatspike at 12:05 PM on July 1, 2004
Because a cut wire would provide solid, no-arguments proof of sabotage. Keeping the phones busy provides at least the possibility of a way out.
posted by clevershark at 12:26 PM on July 1, 2004
posted by clevershark at 12:26 PM on July 1, 2004
[pre-emptive strike]
Oh yeah?!?
Well, Bill Clinton did it too!!
[/pre-emptive strike]
Are we seeing any kind of consistent pattern yet? :-)
posted by nofundy at 1:08 PM on July 1, 2004
Oh yeah?!?
Well, Bill Clinton did it too!!
[/pre-emptive strike]
Are we seeing any kind of consistent pattern yet? :-)
posted by nofundy at 1:08 PM on July 1, 2004
If they can't win fair and square, there is no level to which republicans will not sink in their dirty tricks. Allen Raymond and his ilk should be tarred and feathered...on FOX News.
posted by wsg at 1:37 PM on July 1, 2004
posted by wsg at 1:37 PM on July 1, 2004
Criminals and thugs. The GOP in a nutshell.
Meanwhile, Democrats resort to dirty tricks to try and keep Ralph Nader off the ballot:
"In the interview, Mr. Nader said he had not seen any evidence that Republicans had acted inappropriately and instead accused Democrats of 'dirty tricks' to keep him off ballots. He said that while representatives of an antitax group encouraged Republicans to attend a meeting last Saturday in Portland, Ore., to help him collect 1,000 signatures, he said Democrats were 'infiltrating' the same meeting merely to block other supporters from getting in.
Mr. Nader said Democrats crowded into a meeting hall, kept other people out and gave the false impression that they had signed petitions for him."
posted by gyc at 1:44 PM on July 1, 2004
Meanwhile, Democrats resort to dirty tricks to try and keep Ralph Nader off the ballot:
"In the interview, Mr. Nader said he had not seen any evidence that Republicans had acted inappropriately and instead accused Democrats of 'dirty tricks' to keep him off ballots. He said that while representatives of an antitax group encouraged Republicans to attend a meeting last Saturday in Portland, Ore., to help him collect 1,000 signatures, he said Democrats were 'infiltrating' the same meeting merely to block other supporters from getting in.
Mr. Nader said Democrats crowded into a meeting hall, kept other people out and gave the false impression that they had signed petitions for him."
posted by gyc at 1:44 PM on July 1, 2004
gyc you're really stretching with that one.
posted by Space Coyote at 1:58 PM on July 1, 2004
posted by Space Coyote at 1:58 PM on July 1, 2004
Yeah, that's the same as jamming phone lines on voting day!
I think using dirty tricks to try and keep someone off the ballot and lessen choices for voters is certainly as offensive as keeping someone from voting at all.
gyc, the same Oregon where conservative groups got Nader on the ballot?
What's wrong with giving voters more choices, unless the intention is to coerce voters into voting for the "correct" candidate?
posted by gyc at 2:14 PM on July 1, 2004
I think using dirty tricks to try and keep someone off the ballot and lessen choices for voters is certainly as offensive as keeping someone from voting at all.
gyc, the same Oregon where conservative groups got Nader on the ballot?
What's wrong with giving voters more choices, unless the intention is to coerce voters into voting for the "correct" candidate?
posted by gyc at 2:14 PM on July 1, 2004
gyc, if you truly believe the two actions were comparable (ignore the GOP push for Nader and the hot headed dem reply) then where are the charges? Where is the conviction like we saw here?
Sure, they were not comparable legally, but ethically and morally, I consider them comparable. Even though you obviously disagree, I think that restricting a voter's choice of candidates is just as bad as preventing them from voting at all.
posted by gyc at 2:43 PM on July 1, 2004
Sure, they were not comparable legally, but ethically and morally, I consider them comparable. Even though you obviously disagree, I think that restricting a voter's choice of candidates is just as bad as preventing them from voting at all.
posted by gyc at 2:43 PM on July 1, 2004
Lest we forget, voter disenfranchisement is still ongoing in Florida. More are being illegally removed as we converse. And the ones illegally stricken from voter rolls in 2000 have yet to be reinstated. After all, they've only had 4 years to fix the problem!
Are we seeing a consistent pattern yet?
posted by nofundy at 5:27 AM on July 2, 2004
Are we seeing a consistent pattern yet?
posted by nofundy at 5:27 AM on July 2, 2004
I wish this surprised me.
posted by SisterHavana at 1:31 PM on July 2, 2004
posted by SisterHavana at 1:31 PM on July 2, 2004
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