Now I know fathers want their kids to follow in their footsteps,
October 20, 2000 11:34 PM Subscribe
Now I know fathers want their kids to follow in their footsteps, but this is really weird. In March, the daughter of Muhammad Ali will take on the daughter of Joe Frazier in a boxing match. (And they're both pro's.)
Why is this weird? Autoracing families have generations of people racing...why not see if you inherited your father's boxing talent?
posted by kristin at 1:31 PM on October 21, 2000
posted by kristin at 1:31 PM on October 21, 2000
reminds me of one of the Rocky movies where he tells his son something along the lines of he gets the crap beat out of him so his son doesn't have to... This is one profession not many people would want their kids to get into.
posted by gyc at 3:52 PM on October 21, 2000
posted by gyc at 3:52 PM on October 21, 2000
Why is this weird?
Um, uh, er, because they're women?
Occasionally something happens which when you see it, you think to yourself "No novelist would have the nerve to put this in a piece of fiction, because his readers would instantly lose their suspension of disbelief." This strikes me as such a case.
The daughters of two of the finest heavyweight boxers of all time both go into boxing and they're going to meet, 30 years after their fathers fought each other? No writer would ever have the nerve to put that into a piece of fiction.
posted by Steven Den Beste at 4:58 PM on October 21, 2000
Um, uh, er, because they're women?
Occasionally something happens which when you see it, you think to yourself "No novelist would have the nerve to put this in a piece of fiction, because his readers would instantly lose their suspension of disbelief." This strikes me as such a case.
The daughters of two of the finest heavyweight boxers of all time both go into boxing and they're going to meet, 30 years after their fathers fought each other? No writer would ever have the nerve to put that into a piece of fiction.
posted by Steven Den Beste at 4:58 PM on October 21, 2000
The sad thing is, in my opinion Ali's daughter is desperately seeking daddy's approval. After all, Ali did once remark that he had "one son and seven mistakes." I also saw her on some morning talk show, and she commented that her parents probably weren't watching.
I feel for that girl, I do.
posted by Jart at 7:43 PM on October 21, 2000
I feel for that girl, I do.
posted by Jart at 7:43 PM on October 21, 2000
In the UK we've been pretty used to the whole idea of women boxing for a while. Personally I don't see how you can separate this along gender lines. It's either weird for anyone to be doing it at all (which, in the age of space travel and computers it kind of is) or it's not weird for anyone to be doing it.
posted by davidgentle at 8:01 PM on October 21, 2000
posted by davidgentle at 8:01 PM on October 21, 2000
I suspect if it were Ali's son vs. Frazier's son, this would be seen as really cool "rematch" and it would get a whole slew of coverage.
posted by megnut at 9:21 PM on October 21, 2000
posted by megnut at 9:21 PM on October 21, 2000
No one should box - it's nothing more than a bloodsport, with lots of nasty head injuries - I wonder if Ali would have Parkinsons if he hadn't boxed?
Anyway, there's no sport whatsoever left in boxing, if there ever was any - it's all money money money.
posted by tomcosgrave at 11:40 AM on October 22, 2000
Anyway, there's no sport whatsoever left in boxing, if there ever was any - it's all money money money.
posted by tomcosgrave at 11:40 AM on October 22, 2000
I think it's weird not because of the gender (I actually think that is pretty cool) but because of the lineage. I always wonder about kids who follow in their parents' footsteps too closely (G.W. Bush) and wonder what they're trying to prove. It is talent, passion for the game, fitness and training that will bring them through, not their name.
posted by amanda at 2:12 PM on October 22, 2000
posted by amanda at 2:12 PM on October 22, 2000
One more thing... Tamin's assertion that Laila is only doing this until she has a modeling job is incredibly sexist and ridiculous. Did you see that girl? She could whup up on your ass something serious. I'm glad you think she's pretty but give the girl a break.
posted by amanda at 2:16 PM on October 22, 2000
posted by amanda at 2:16 PM on October 22, 2000
amanda: "Tamin's assertion that Laila is only doing this until she has a modeling job is incredibly sexist and ridiculous. Did you see that girl? She could whup up on your ass something serious. "
I was not being sexist when I said Laila is doing this till she gets some money to do something "safe." She was a hair stylist before the boxing agents flashed some money at her and promised to make her famous. She then went on a global TV interview and magazine shoots.
Women have been boxing professionally for a while now. I think last year in the first "battle of the sexes" the woman kicked butt of the guy who boxed her. There has been a women's class in the Daily News - Golden Gloves competition for a while too. Women's boxing has never had this much media interest before Laila showed up.
She is smart enough to take a better opportunity than boxing. Give me a call back in a year or two when she stars in her own UPN sitcom.
One more thing, YES! I think she sure can whup my ass. She is very strong.
posted by tamim at 3:17 PM on October 22, 2000
I was not being sexist when I said Laila is doing this till she gets some money to do something "safe." She was a hair stylist before the boxing agents flashed some money at her and promised to make her famous. She then went on a global TV interview and magazine shoots.
Women have been boxing professionally for a while now. I think last year in the first "battle of the sexes" the woman kicked butt of the guy who boxed her. There has been a women's class in the Daily News - Golden Gloves competition for a while too. Women's boxing has never had this much media interest before Laila showed up.
She is smart enough to take a better opportunity than boxing. Give me a call back in a year or two when she stars in her own UPN sitcom.
One more thing, YES! I think she sure can whup my ass. She is very strong.
posted by tamim at 3:17 PM on October 22, 2000
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One interesting thing is that Laila's older sister (the one who now takes care of her father) was opposed to this. She is a bit more conservative "muslim."
posted by tamim at 11:47 PM on October 20, 2000