Three Strikes - You're out Mr. Bush
November 3, 2000 9:22 AM Subscribe
Three Strikes - You're out Mr. Bush OK, so we know about the DWI arrest but did you know about the hotel theft arrest or the disorderly conduct arrest? Michael Moore does and he is asking tough questions.
LOL! What do you think he's been doing the last six months? Whether he realized it or not, Moore's been campaigning for Nader for some time now. =) Maybe not on the trail, but via the Internet and his other communication avenues. If Nader actually gets electoral votes, it is in some small part due to Moore's big mouth.
posted by ZachsMind at 11:43 AM on November 3, 2000
posted by ZachsMind at 11:43 AM on November 3, 2000
Uhm, he did appear at a Nader rally in Minnesota -- I think the rally is the Nader campaign at it's best. Watch the whole thing! (2 hours)
posted by snakey at 12:02 PM on November 3, 2000
posted by snakey at 12:02 PM on November 3, 2000
He also appeared - and made rousing speeches - at the Nader rallies in Boston and New York. He's been out there campaigning for Nader quite vigorously, actually.
posted by Annabel.Gill at 12:26 PM on November 3, 2000
posted by Annabel.Gill at 12:26 PM on November 3, 2000
I think Winona Laduke is the best part of the Nader campaign, so Moore being the running mate would be bad, in my opinion. Nader and Moore are both pretty hypocritical, though I agree with all the stuff they *say*.
Pulling up a DWI from twenty years ago is pretty lame... there's definitely something wrong with Gore if he can't totally trounce an idiot like Bush, especially with two terms as VP during a popular presidency.
McReynolds/Hollis 2000!
posted by kidsplateusa at 12:46 PM on November 3, 2000
Pulling up a DWI from twenty years ago is pretty lame... there's definitely something wrong with Gore if he can't totally trounce an idiot like Bush, especially with two terms as VP during a popular presidency.
McReynolds/Hollis 2000!
posted by kidsplateusa at 12:46 PM on November 3, 2000
I think Winona Laduke is the best part of the Nader campaign . . .
Why then has she been absolutely silent? She has not been at any of the 'super rallies' and seems to have dropped out of the campaign altogether. Were he name not on the billboards, one would think she wasn't involved at all.
Is there dissent in the Green party ranks? Does anyone know what's going on?
posted by aladfar at 2:06 PM on November 3, 2000
Why then has she been absolutely silent? She has not been at any of the 'super rallies' and seems to have dropped out of the campaign altogether. Were he name not on the billboards, one would think she wasn't involved at all.
Is there dissent in the Green party ranks? Does anyone know what's going on?
posted by aladfar at 2:06 PM on November 3, 2000
I understand that Winona is pregnant. This could be one of the reasons you're not seeing her as much as Ralph on the campaign trail.
Aladfar, there's this post regarding Winona -- posted in September.
posted by snakey at 3:29 PM on November 3, 2000
Aladfar, there's this post regarding Winona -- posted in September.
posted by snakey at 3:29 PM on November 3, 2000
aladfar- I know for a fact she was at the Minneapolis Rally, and according to someone I know who went she spoke for a good deal of time. Shortly after that one we started putting in a new floor where our TV is so I haven't seen any of the other ones, but from what I can tell she has continued to do at least as much campaigning and public speaking as the other running mates. Also she may be preoccupied with an Indian rights thing at any given time.
dave- Actually, I can't really back that up. Recently he seems to be getting kind of arrogant, but then again that could be media spin. Anyone that presents an image of such asceticism must be a hypocrite though, right ;)? Don't get me wrong, if I could vote I would probably cast my ballot for the green party.
posted by kidsplateusa at 3:34 PM on November 3, 2000
dave- Actually, I can't really back that up. Recently he seems to be getting kind of arrogant, but then again that could be media spin. Anyone that presents an image of such asceticism must be a hypocrite though, right ;)? Don't get me wrong, if I could vote I would probably cast my ballot for the green party.
posted by kidsplateusa at 3:34 PM on November 3, 2000
Just to clear things up, it was a DUI, which is a lower alcohol level than DWI.
Let's at least try to act fair even if everyone wants to slant things to their own effect.
posted by rich at 8:46 PM on November 3, 2000
Let's at least try to act fair even if everyone wants to slant things to their own effect.
posted by rich at 8:46 PM on November 3, 2000
Bush's blood alcohol level was .12, Rich. What's slanted about calling that a DWI?
posted by rcade at 9:14 PM on November 3, 2000
posted by rcade at 9:14 PM on November 3, 2000
Here in Texas there is only one level of DWI, that. DWI.
My wife's Aunt's husband was arrested for DWI two years ago outside of Houston (he has a history of PI charges, but this was his first DWI). He is a Mexican Citizen, married to an American citizen, but they were married in Mexico. When his case went before the Judge he got 12 months in the slammer. After six he was deported to Mexico - because the Judge did not recognize the Mexican marrige.
If he was born in Texas, he might have a shot at the Presidency.
posted by DragonBoy at 10:45 PM on November 3, 2000
My wife's Aunt's husband was arrested for DWI two years ago outside of Houston (he has a history of PI charges, but this was his first DWI). He is a Mexican Citizen, married to an American citizen, but they were married in Mexico. When his case went before the Judge he got 12 months in the slammer. After six he was deported to Mexico - because the Judge did not recognize the Mexican marrige.
If he was born in Texas, he might have a shot at the Presidency.
posted by DragonBoy at 10:45 PM on November 3, 2000
Just to clear things up, it was a DUI, which is a lower alcohol level than DWI.
Hey Rich, find us a state where there are different charges called "DUI" and "DWI" which vary according to blood alcohol content.
(Where a distinction is drawn, it is between the nature of the evidence: BAC measurement or evaluation of behaviour; but these two do not consistently map to "DUI" and "DWI" in different states. E.g., California, Washington and Florida call it all DUI, New Mexico and Minnesota called it all DWI. New York does have two-tiered BAC clauses and call 0.05-0.999 'DWAI' and over 0.10 'DWI'. Maine may have made a similar distinction in the 70s, but it doesn't now.)
Let's at least try to act fair even if everyone wants to slant things to their own effect.
OK. Thanks for clearing that up.
posted by sylloge at 2:35 AM on November 4, 2000
Hey Rich, find us a state where there are different charges called "DUI" and "DWI" which vary according to blood alcohol content.
(Where a distinction is drawn, it is between the nature of the evidence: BAC measurement or evaluation of behaviour; but these two do not consistently map to "DUI" and "DWI" in different states. E.g., California, Washington and Florida call it all DUI, New Mexico and Minnesota called it all DWI. New York does have two-tiered BAC clauses and call 0.05-0.999 'DWAI' and over 0.10 'DWI'. Maine may have made a similar distinction in the 70s, but it doesn't now.)
Let's at least try to act fair even if everyone wants to slant things to their own effect.
OK. Thanks for clearing that up.
posted by sylloge at 2:35 AM on November 4, 2000
Addendum from CNN:Maine laws on drunken driving then and now
posted by sylloge at 4:33 AM on November 4, 2000
posted by sylloge at 4:33 AM on November 4, 2000
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