What Really Happened
June 27, 2005 2:03 AM Subscribe
What Really Happened. The history the government hopes you DON'T learn!
If you ask me, I don't think the government has anything to worry about from this dude. Whatever good points he has are lost in a sea of conspiratorial flimflam, with a lot of "signs of massive cover-ups" and "suspicious activity", but very few facts. How is he different from the conspiracy nut that came before him?
posted by Goblindegook at 2:38 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by Goblindegook at 2:38 AM on June 27, 2005
If the people behind this site find themselves with a credibility problem, they only have the government to blame.
posted by Goblindegook at 2:43 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by Goblindegook at 2:43 AM on June 27, 2005
When my brother saw that movie, he said, "I'll never eat Corn Flakes again."
posted by alumshubby at 3:20 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by alumshubby at 3:20 AM on June 27, 2005
Hmmm... Gore and the internet, the Clintons' death list, Vincent Foster, Waco, OK City, etc... This looks more like a NewsMax site to me than a conspiracy site.
posted by psmealey at 3:52 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by psmealey at 3:52 AM on June 27, 2005
Ok.... there's some 911 conspiracy stuff on there, so I take that back. Could just be a function of who was in power when the site was first launched.
posted by psmealey at 3:59 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by psmealey at 3:59 AM on June 27, 2005
Much of it's legit (eg Echelon exists. well duh. etc). Since I like conspiracies, but don't really track real-world ones, this seems like a fun site to see a bunch of hot-button conspiracy-theorist stories in one convenient location :-)
posted by -harlequin- at 4:25 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by -harlequin- at 4:25 AM on June 27, 2005
Why is it that conspiracy/tin-foil hat sites always have poor design and horrible spelling?
posted by poppo at 4:31 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by poppo at 4:31 AM on June 27, 2005
I reckon that the site is no longer being updated because 'they' got to him.
posted by tapeguy at 4:47 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by tapeguy at 4:47 AM on June 27, 2005
There is a vast, right-wing conspiracy. It's called the Republican party.
Some conspiracy theories aren't theories, they're reality.
posted by Goofyy at 4:57 AM on June 27, 2005
Some conspiracy theories aren't theories, they're reality.
posted by Goofyy at 4:57 AM on June 27, 2005
When it comes to conspiracy theories, fellow MeFite Matthew Rossi spoiled me. He's saner than most (at least he doesn't believe in all the crazy things he writes about) and has far more original ideas than all the conspiracy nuts of the world combined. His Things That Never Were has been linked before and is a book everyone should read.
posted by Goblindegook at 4:57 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by Goblindegook at 4:57 AM on June 27, 2005
Those seem to be pretty well-founded in reality. Nothing too surprising. The Hawai'i thing is kind of lame, but I found the stuff about the Kursk interesting.
posted by blacklite at 5:20 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by blacklite at 5:20 AM on June 27, 2005
Goblindegook, I think of Rossi's TTNW as conspiracy theories for the literati, myself. It's still an amazing book, though, and I heartily second the recommendation.
posted by mkhall at 5:40 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by mkhall at 5:40 AM on June 27, 2005
I feel much better, now that I know the truth. Thanks, srboisvert, for helping clear things up.
posted by LeLiLo at 6:20 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by LeLiLo at 6:20 AM on June 27, 2005
They lost me at the "Hawaii is not legally a state." This is like those people who argue that income tax is illegal because Ohio is not legally a state. Whatever.
posted by grouse at 6:23 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by grouse at 6:23 AM on June 27, 2005
Oh come on, this one has been making the rounds since 9/12. Just FPP infowars and prisonplanet and get it over with.
Hey, I heard there's this cool new search engine called Google, anyone used it yet?
posted by darukaru at 6:26 AM on June 27, 2005
Hey, I heard there's this cool new search engine called Google, anyone used it yet?
posted by darukaru at 6:26 AM on June 27, 2005
Legally or not, Hawaii shouldn't be considered a state. 1) It wasn't there when I learned my states in the second or third grade. 2) For years it was in the road atlas under A (when they just stuck two pages in near the front, the other one of course being Alaska). 3) And most un-American of all, you can't drive (to) there. How can Hawaii claim to have an interstate highway?
Maybe if they built a bridge...
posted by LeLiLo at 6:29 AM on June 27, 2005
Maybe if they built a bridge...
posted by LeLiLo at 6:29 AM on June 27, 2005
Poppo says:
Why is it that conspiracy/tin-foil hat sites always have poor design and horrible spelling?
I never made that connection, but it's so true. Actually, the spelling is often ok, but when I think back, nearly every conspiracy site (and fringe-science sites too for that matter) I've been too, I've ended up frustrated or confused by the layout. I suspect this is actually the only reason there aren't any sites on these topics in my bookmarks.
posted by -harlequin- at 6:33 AM on June 27, 2005
Why is it that conspiracy/tin-foil hat sites always have poor design and horrible spelling?
I never made that connection, but it's so true. Actually, the spelling is often ok, but when I think back, nearly every conspiracy site (and fringe-science sites too for that matter) I've been too, I've ended up frustrated or confused by the layout. I suspect this is actually the only reason there aren't any sites on these topics in my bookmarks.
posted by -harlequin- at 6:33 AM on June 27, 2005
Why isn't the link to the Front Page?
I have this on a homepage tab, and check it out everyday.
Conspiracy? Yes. Ask the Ukraine's Yeshenko what he thinks about conspiracies.
posted by Balisong at 6:37 AM on June 27, 2005
I have this on a homepage tab, and check it out everyday.
Conspiracy? Yes. Ask the Ukraine's Yeshenko what he thinks about conspiracies.
posted by Balisong at 6:37 AM on June 27, 2005
darukaru:
Stuff shouldn't need to be new. Almost all the best stuff on the web is old, and since I'm unaware of 90% of it, I'm happy to be pointed to old good stuff.
I should stress however, that I am in no way suggesting this conspiracy site ranks among the best stuff on the web. I'm just saying that for many users, old != redundant.
posted by -harlequin- at 6:38 AM on June 27, 2005
Stuff shouldn't need to be new. Almost all the best stuff on the web is old, and since I'm unaware of 90% of it, I'm happy to be pointed to old good stuff.
I should stress however, that I am in no way suggesting this conspiracy site ranks among the best stuff on the web. I'm just saying that for many users, old != redundant.
posted by -harlequin- at 6:38 AM on June 27, 2005
Wow, it's like a one stop shop for the tin foil hat crowd. Really, though, this guy needs to concentrate his energies. You have to choose the ditch you die in, you can't just go breaking your leg in every one you come to! With such a diverse array of conspiracy theories, his evidence is pretty lame. If he stuck to one or two he might be able to move from urine soaked ranting lunatic to the more respectable corner prophet with hand written, photocopied pamphlet. If he gets some real juicy stuff there, he could be featured on an A&E program!
posted by Pollomacho at 6:48 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by Pollomacho at 6:48 AM on June 27, 2005
The problem with this is that most people - even the ones who make valid points - are too easy to chuck away as rubbish, because they get too fanatic about it.
Ultimately, that was the downfall of the Drudge Report as well. Started off well, and now nobody can be bothered anymore.
posted by SharQ at 7:07 AM on June 27, 2005
Ultimately, that was the downfall of the Drudge Report as well. Started off well, and now nobody can be bothered anymore.
posted by SharQ at 7:07 AM on June 27, 2005
Wow. What a craptacular pile of crap. So crappy even the turdy bits are shitty.
posted by mooncrow at 7:40 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by mooncrow at 7:40 AM on June 27, 2005
Oh great, three weeks of future MetaFilter FPPs all in one place. We'll be seeing these again and again.
posted by LarryC at 8:16 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by LarryC at 8:16 AM on June 27, 2005
"It disagrees with everything I believe in so I'd better call it a few names before that uncomfortable feeling sets in... "
"Ahhh yeah, much better...Now that I've thrown around a few adjectives to describe this website, I feel so much better about myself, and can go about my daily routine."
posted by GrooveJedi at 8:35 AM on June 27, 2005
"Ahhh yeah, much better...Now that I've thrown around a few adjectives to describe this website, I feel so much better about myself, and can go about my daily routine."
posted by GrooveJedi at 8:35 AM on June 27, 2005
FLORIDA VOTE FRAUD
WHO REALLY DID IT?.
Was it, as the Democrats claim, the GOP? A look at who benefitted tells what really happened
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This one really made the milk fly out of my nose . . .
posted by mk1gti at 9:40 AM on June 27, 2005
WHO REALLY DID IT?.
Was it, as the Democrats claim, the GOP? A look at who benefitted tells what really happened
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This one really made the milk fly out of my nose . . .
posted by mk1gti at 9:40 AM on June 27, 2005
I just heard someone espouse the "Clintons are murderers" theory last weekend. I had no idea. The list of people connected to them who are dead is absurdly long and many of the connections seem tenuous at best, but still people like to believe. Is there a site that does a good rebuttal to this theory?
posted by monkeyman at 10:13 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by monkeyman at 10:13 AM on June 27, 2005
They should add all those Tsunami victims to the Clinton Murder list... Of course, he caused it just so he could get back in the public eye...
posted by wendell at 10:17 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by wendell at 10:17 AM on June 27, 2005
Metafilter: choose the ditch you die in
posted by Mack Twain at 10:40 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by Mack Twain at 10:40 AM on June 27, 2005
You have to love the leading leading pictures of Cheney in a yamulkah. And the denouncing of the big bang. Bleh
posted by blahblahblah at 11:21 AM on June 27, 2005
posted by blahblahblah at 11:21 AM on June 27, 2005
Never ask crazy people "why" questions. — warbaby
why?
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 2:30 PM on June 27, 2005
why?
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 2:30 PM on June 27, 2005
So where are the accurate conspiracy sites?
posted by craniac at 8:13 AM PST on June 27 [!] - those sites are generally called accepted history.
Et tu Brute?
posted by troutfishing at 6:59 PM on June 27, 2005
posted by craniac at 8:13 AM PST on June 27 [!] - those sites are generally called accepted history.
Et tu Brute?
posted by troutfishing at 6:59 PM on June 27, 2005
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