The New Secular Jihad
March 2, 2006 9:37 AM Subscribe
The New Secular Jihad. Together the Patriot Pastors flanked by warrior Ken Blackwell are fighting an apocalyptic clash between the forces of righteousness and the hordes of hell. "Make sure that when the shootin' starts, all of the enemy is in front of you."
The best thing that could happen for Democrats, liberals, secularists, etc., is if these crazy people actually ran. Give the Republicans a choice between a normal politician and a fire and brimstone preacher and let the two of them split the vote. It'll be a cakewalk for the third candidate. I sort of hope that Roy Moore will run as an independent candidate in 2008 - he'll be like the Ralph Nader for the Republicans, only he'll get more votes.
posted by billysumday at 9:49 AM on March 2, 2006
posted by billysumday at 9:49 AM on March 2, 2006
I could have phrased that better. I want the Republicans to have to choose between the rich, connected, career politician (like a Bill Frist) and the good-ole boy, anti-gubment religious zealot. The bigger the Republican party gets, the more likely it is to fracture into these two groups.
posted by billysumday at 9:51 AM on March 2, 2006
posted by billysumday at 9:51 AM on March 2, 2006
"He likened it to Nazi Germany, where church congregations would sing so that they could not hear the passing of trainloads of crying Jews headed for a nearby concentration camp."
This is apparently in response to the removal of the Ten Commandments from courthouses, and the prohibition of prayer in public schools.
So....... The well established and broadly supported separation of church and state in this country is equivalent to the murder of 6 million people.
Can we please take up a collection to buy these fuckers their own island?
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:53 AM on March 2, 2006
This is apparently in response to the removal of the Ten Commandments from courthouses, and the prohibition of prayer in public schools.
So....... The well established and broadly supported separation of church and state in this country is equivalent to the murder of 6 million people.
Can we please take up a collection to buy these fuckers their own island?
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:53 AM on March 2, 2006
I don't think any church should be tax-exempt in the first place. But if you're telling people who to vote for? Put 'em in jail.
posted by bardic at 10:07 AM on March 2, 2006
posted by bardic at 10:07 AM on March 2, 2006
Obligatory: David Niewart.
He's been chronicling the rise of fascism in this country for some time now, especially in the form of minutemen and militias, and has long been a proponent of the notion that American fascism will not look like German or Italian or Spanish fascism, but rather will have its own very American stylings. Those stylings are in short a great deal of patriotic symbolism, the usual eliminationist rhetoric... and a lot of Jeebus mixed in for good measure, what with us being so "Christian" a nation and all.
posted by hincandenza at 10:20 AM on March 2, 2006
He's been chronicling the rise of fascism in this country for some time now, especially in the form of minutemen and militias, and has long been a proponent of the notion that American fascism will not look like German or Italian or Spanish fascism, but rather will have its own very American stylings. Those stylings are in short a great deal of patriotic symbolism, the usual eliminationist rhetoric... and a lot of Jeebus mixed in for good measure, what with us being so "Christian" a nation and all.
posted by hincandenza at 10:20 AM on March 2, 2006
Speaking from rural Ohio, I'd be willing to bet that Ken Blackwell will be our next governor.
Especially since, as Secy. of State, he controls the voting machines.
But the millions of mouth-breathing morons around here sure don't hurt.
posted by words1 at 10:25 AM on March 2, 2006
Especially since, as Secy. of State, he controls the voting machines.
But the millions of mouth-breathing morons around here sure don't hurt.
posted by words1 at 10:25 AM on March 2, 2006
I don't see how these folks don't get that the separation of church and state protects their religious beliefs. Even if their crowd is in power now, they most likely won't be forever, and by that point the precedent will have been set for the gov. to legislate their beliefs into the margins.
posted by sonofsamiam at 10:29 AM on March 2, 2006
posted by sonofsamiam at 10:29 AM on March 2, 2006
For the same reason that Bush and his pals don't care that they've driven the US economy into a ditch.
I had a conversation a couple of years ago with a public school teacher out here who, after 20 minutes of my calm explanations, could still not grasp why she wasn't allowed to lead her students in prayer a few times a day. To her, Jesus, etc., is as self-evidently true as the sun coming up in the morning -- why not teach it?
posted by words1 at 10:35 AM on March 2, 2006
I had a conversation a couple of years ago with a public school teacher out here who, after 20 minutes of my calm explanations, could still not grasp why she wasn't allowed to lead her students in prayer a few times a day. To her, Jesus, etc., is as self-evidently true as the sun coming up in the morning -- why not teach it?
posted by words1 at 10:35 AM on March 2, 2006
"preserving freedom through godly heritage"
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
posted by JeffK at 10:48 AM on March 2, 2006
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
posted by JeffK at 10:48 AM on March 2, 2006
Is he talking literal warfare? ‘Cause I’m up for that.
....Really up for that.
posted by Smedleyman at 2:03 PM on March 2, 2006
....Really up for that.
posted by Smedleyman at 2:03 PM on March 2, 2006
I go to a Bar every Sunday, Can I get it made tax exempt?
posted by Megafly at 3:49 PM on March 2, 2006
posted by Megafly at 3:49 PM on March 2, 2006
Secular jihad? They wish, the disgraceful fucking savages. They wish we'd stoop to their primitive level. Keep wishing, asses. You're good at deranged fantasy so you should have a lot of fun with it.
posted by Decani at 4:47 PM on March 2, 2006
posted by Decani at 4:47 PM on March 2, 2006
I remember Ken Blackwell when he was duking it out with Jerry Springer in Cincinnati politics in the 1970s. He's a republican war dog, but I can't remember him taking any position that was unusual. If you think this fellow is worth screeching about, I feel sorry for you.
posted by Yakuman at 5:40 PM on March 2, 2006
posted by Yakuman at 5:40 PM on March 2, 2006
I can't remember him taking any position that was unusual
Oh, OK. Thank so much for easing my mind. I'll sleep much better tonight.
posted by Otis at 8:41 PM on March 2, 2006
Oh, OK. Thank so much for easing my mind. I'll sleep much better tonight.
posted by Otis at 8:41 PM on March 2, 2006
Yakuman - Would going to Rod Parsley's "Patriot Pastor" rallies on government time be unusual, unethical, or illegal ?
posted by troutfishing at 8:54 PM on March 2, 2006
posted by troutfishing at 8:54 PM on March 2, 2006
These Ohio fundies are seriously fucked up!
Isn't Blackwell the Uncle Tom who screwed the election process there for Dubya?
posted by nofundy at 5:23 AM on March 3, 2006
Isn't Blackwell the Uncle Tom who screwed the election process there for Dubya?
posted by nofundy at 5:23 AM on March 3, 2006
Yes
• Mr. Blackwell’s decision to restrict provisional ballots resulted in the disenfranchisement of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of voters, predominantly minority and Democratic voters. Mr. Blackwell’s decision departed from past Ohio law on provisional ballots, and there is no evidence that a broader construction would have led to any significant disruption at the polling places, and did not do so in other states.
• Mr. Blackwell’s widely reviled decision to reject voter registration applications based on paper weight may have resulted in thousands of new voters not being registered in time for the 2004 election.
• The Ohio Republican Party’s decision to engage in preelection “caging” tactics, selectively targeting 35,000 predominantly minority voters for intimidation had a negative impact on voter turnout. The Third Circuit found these activities to be illegal and in direct violation of consent decrees barring the Republican Party from targeting minority voters for poll challenges.
• The Ohio Republican Party’s decision to utilize thousands of partisan challengers concentrated in minority and Democratic areas likely disenfranchised tens of thousands of legal voters, who were not only intimidated, but became discouraged by the long lines. Shockingly, these disruptions were publicly predicted and acknowledged by Republican officials: Mark Weaver, a lawyer for the Ohio Republican Party, admitted the challenges “can’t help but create chaos, longer lines and frustration.”
• Mr. Blackwell’s decision to prevent voters who requested absentee ballots but did not receive them on a timely basis from being able to receive provisional ballots likely disenfranchised thousands, if not tens of thousands, of voters, particularly seniors. A federal court found Mr. Blackwell’s order to be illegal and in violation of HAVA.
So pity me if you must, but I kinda feel that our democratic process is worth "screeching about."
posted by Otis at 6:28 AM on March 3, 2006
• Mr. Blackwell’s decision to restrict provisional ballots resulted in the disenfranchisement of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of voters, predominantly minority and Democratic voters. Mr. Blackwell’s decision departed from past Ohio law on provisional ballots, and there is no evidence that a broader construction would have led to any significant disruption at the polling places, and did not do so in other states.
• Mr. Blackwell’s widely reviled decision to reject voter registration applications based on paper weight may have resulted in thousands of new voters not being registered in time for the 2004 election.
• The Ohio Republican Party’s decision to engage in preelection “caging” tactics, selectively targeting 35,000 predominantly minority voters for intimidation had a negative impact on voter turnout. The Third Circuit found these activities to be illegal and in direct violation of consent decrees barring the Republican Party from targeting minority voters for poll challenges.
• The Ohio Republican Party’s decision to utilize thousands of partisan challengers concentrated in minority and Democratic areas likely disenfranchised tens of thousands of legal voters, who were not only intimidated, but became discouraged by the long lines. Shockingly, these disruptions were publicly predicted and acknowledged by Republican officials: Mark Weaver, a lawyer for the Ohio Republican Party, admitted the challenges “can’t help but create chaos, longer lines and frustration.”
• Mr. Blackwell’s decision to prevent voters who requested absentee ballots but did not receive them on a timely basis from being able to receive provisional ballots likely disenfranchised thousands, if not tens of thousands, of voters, particularly seniors. A federal court found Mr. Blackwell’s order to be illegal and in violation of HAVA.
So pity me if you must, but I kinda feel that our democratic process is worth "screeching about."
posted by Otis at 6:28 AM on March 3, 2006
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