walls vs hammers
June 27, 2006 8:21 PM Subscribe
send a hammer is a site that popped up recently to offer something to send a congressman(or woman) to break down the wall that the send a brick folk want made with their bricks. What a strange conversation the nation is having about immigration!
It's all the talk from the churches
to the white supremacists
but ---won't someone think of the kids!!
How bad is this an issue to tackle in an election year -
don't forget how much madness can get legislated in the shadow of a heated election
(or much of anything, for that matter)
posted by StrasbourgSecaucus at 8:55 PM on June 27, 2006
posted by StrasbourgSecaucus at 8:55 PM on June 27, 2006
immigants! I knew it was dem! Even when it wuz da bears, I knew it was dem.
posted by jonson at 9:44 PM on June 27, 2006
posted by jonson at 9:44 PM on June 27, 2006
Neighter of you live in state where the "majority ethnicity" is not your own, right?
Me neither.
posted by porpoise at 9:58 PM on June 27, 2006
Me neither.
posted by porpoise at 9:58 PM on June 27, 2006
Can I send a pink taco?
posted by homunculus at 10:46 PM on June 27, 2006
posted by homunculus at 10:46 PM on June 27, 2006
How DARE Americans wish to manage their border like every other country on the planet!
The selfish BASTARDS!
posted by HTuttle at 10:56 PM on June 27, 2006
The selfish BASTARDS!
posted by HTuttle at 10:56 PM on June 27, 2006
don't forget how much madness can get legislated in the shadow of a heated election
You mean more madness than is usually legislated in Congress these days even without an election?
posted by blucevalo at 11:02 PM on June 27, 2006
You mean more madness than is usually legislated in Congress these days even without an election?
posted by blucevalo at 11:02 PM on June 27, 2006
So you've not been to Western Europe then HTuttle?
Seriously, this cracks me up, because we have similar here in Aus. Xenophobes claiming draconian border protection measures will somehow have any effect on terrorism and organised crime. I know that if I were planning an attack in the US I'd walk over the Southern border.
Aeroplanes are cheating. Makes things too easy.
posted by pompomtom at 11:12 PM on June 27, 2006
Seriously, this cracks me up, because we have similar here in Aus. Xenophobes claiming draconian border protection measures will somehow have any effect on terrorism and organised crime. I know that if I were planning an attack in the US I'd walk over the Southern border.
Aeroplanes are cheating. Makes things too easy.
posted by pompomtom at 11:12 PM on June 27, 2006
What's next, buy a bullet to shoot them as they come across? How about buying an hour of an inspector's time so businesses can be inspected to find out who is illegally employing people and so those business owners can go to jail?
How does the US compare to other countries in terms of the percentage of its residents and workers who are illegal?
I know that if I were planning an attack in the US I'd walk over the Southern border.
Walk? If I were planning an attack, I'd consider doing it by ship. Take it into an American harbor and blow it up. Flatten or burn the waterfront buildings. How much bomb can you get into a large container ship? When are containers headed for American ports inspected? How many inspectors would you have to fool, bribe, threaten, or kill to get past that inspection?
posted by pracowity at 2:56 AM on June 28, 2006
How does the US compare to other countries in terms of the percentage of its residents and workers who are illegal?
I know that if I were planning an attack in the US I'd walk over the Southern border.
Walk? If I were planning an attack, I'd consider doing it by ship. Take it into an American harbor and blow it up. Flatten or burn the waterfront buildings. How much bomb can you get into a large container ship? When are containers headed for American ports inspected? How many inspectors would you have to fool, bribe, threaten, or kill to get past that inspection?
posted by pracowity at 2:56 AM on June 28, 2006
This will of course be countered by "Send a shovel" to help dig a ditch that prevents wall hammerings.
Countered by "Send a plank" to traverse said ditch.
Countered by "Send fire" to burn those planks.
Countered by "Send a bucket of water" to... oh, can we just cut to quoting that Simpsons episode with the pigeon eating lizards already?
posted by Serial Killer Slumber Party at 4:15 AM on June 28, 2006
Countered by "Send a plank" to traverse said ditch.
Countered by "Send fire" to burn those planks.
Countered by "Send a bucket of water" to... oh, can we just cut to quoting that Simpsons episode with the pigeon eating lizards already?
posted by Serial Killer Slumber Party at 4:15 AM on June 28, 2006
Send-a-nuclear-warhead?
posted by catchmurray at 4:29 AM on June 28, 2006
posted by catchmurray at 4:29 AM on June 28, 2006
This post made me think that we don't see anywhere near enough exclamation marks on the front page.
It then made me realise why that's the case.
posted by Effigy2000 at 5:09 AM on June 28, 2006
It then made me realise why that's the case.
posted by Effigy2000 at 5:09 AM on June 28, 2006
While I'm quite well formed and willfully opinionated on this divisive issue, I'm just going to judge this one on the aesthetics and quality of the web design as an indicator of intelligence and well-roundedness.
*views web pages*
Heh.
Send-A-Brick? You fucking lose, you hideously malformed thing. May there be a Just and Righteous God that will protect us all from your xenophobic, ignorant filth by burying your ill conceived rantings under the smoking rubble of a mountain.
Send A Hammer? You're cutting it close. You need to polish that half-assed shit up, post-haste. Consider some rounded XML corners and shiny pastel buttons or something. Just by your judicious use of exclamation points alone I know you're smarter than that, but come on!
posted by loquacious at 5:13 AM on June 28, 2006
*views web pages*
Heh.
Send-A-Brick? You fucking lose, you hideously malformed thing. May there be a Just and Righteous God that will protect us all from your xenophobic, ignorant filth by burying your ill conceived rantings under the smoking rubble of a mountain.
Send A Hammer? You're cutting it close. You need to polish that half-assed shit up, post-haste. Consider some rounded XML corners and shiny pastel buttons or something. Just by your judicious use of exclamation points alone I know you're smarter than that, but come on!
posted by loquacious at 5:13 AM on June 28, 2006
How DARE Americans wish to manage their border like every other country on the planet!
Uh... the only ones I can think of that did it with a wall are ancient China, East Berlin, and now Israel.
An ancient empire, a totalitarian state, and an apartheid situation - seems a good fit for the beacon of freedom and liberty thatis was the United States. Right? Right?
posted by bashos_frog at 7:02 AM on June 28, 2006
Uh... the only ones I can think of that did it with a wall are ancient China, East Berlin, and now Israel.
An ancient empire, a totalitarian state, and an apartheid situation - seems a good fit for the beacon of freedom and liberty that
posted by bashos_frog at 7:02 AM on June 28, 2006
How DARE Americans wish to manage their border like every other country on the planet!
Every other country on the planet has a double wall? Wow, where the hell have I been?
posted by NationalKato at 7:39 AM on June 28, 2006
Every other country on the planet has a double wall? Wow, where the hell have I been?
posted by NationalKato at 7:39 AM on June 28, 2006
As long as those damn senators aren't hammering in the morning, hammering in the evening, all over this land.
posted by GuyZero at 7:49 AM on June 28, 2006
posted by GuyZero at 7:49 AM on June 28, 2006
clearly this one has nothing to do with racism. all spanish speaking people are terrorists. duh.
the rest of the gallery has some other gems too.
posted by teishu at 11:04 AM on June 28, 2006
the rest of the gallery has some other gems too.
posted by teishu at 11:04 AM on June 28, 2006
What prawocity said.
Know what a 10 foot wall will accomplish?
Accelerate the sales of 12 foot ladders.
Prosecute the employers.
Its the only way if you really care about the "problem."
Else, you're using hatred of the brown skinned people for personal gain (kinda like what the employers are doing.)
No exceptions for "subcontracting" the work either. No shell games. Go after the ones making the real money.
Next, pay a fair wage so more Americans can work their way out of poverty and not worry about being replaced by an ill-treated and poorly-paid immigrant.
Then, fair trade, not free trade.
No such thing as free trade.
For real free trade people, money, goods, and services must travel freely across borders and that ain't gonna happen. Only the money or goods have that pleasure because they belong to the super-persons we call multinational corporations.
posted by nofundy at 11:06 AM on June 28, 2006
Know what a 10 foot wall will accomplish?
Accelerate the sales of 12 foot ladders.
Prosecute the employers.
Its the only way if you really care about the "problem."
Else, you're using hatred of the brown skinned people for personal gain (kinda like what the employers are doing.)
No exceptions for "subcontracting" the work either. No shell games. Go after the ones making the real money.
Next, pay a fair wage so more Americans can work their way out of poverty and not worry about being replaced by an ill-treated and poorly-paid immigrant.
Then, fair trade, not free trade.
No such thing as free trade.
For real free trade people, money, goods, and services must travel freely across borders and that ain't gonna happen. Only the money or goods have that pleasure because they belong to the super-persons we call multinational corporations.
posted by nofundy at 11:06 AM on June 28, 2006
Every other country on the planet has a double wall? Wow, where the hell have I been?
Other countries don't NEED a wall. No one wants to go there.
That doesn't mean they do NOT control their immigration.
I realize that doesn't fit your agenda.
posted by HTuttle at 12:42 PM on June 28, 2006
Other countries don't NEED a wall. No one wants to go there.
That doesn't mean they do NOT control their immigration.
I realize that doesn't fit your agenda.
posted by HTuttle at 12:42 PM on June 28, 2006
Other countries don't NEED a wall. No one wants to go there.
You're half right.
Other countries don't need a wall. But you're full of it if you think no one wants to go there. This USA exceptionalism you're promoting is nationalism at its worst.
Look HTuttle, if you are truly opposed to illegal immigration and/or really hate brown people, then contact you representative about PROSECUTING EMPLOYERS. Problem solved and you can go back into your insular little "we're the bestest and greatest evah" world and drink cheap beer while watching loops of NASCAR and NFL. Deal?
posted by nofundy at 12:52 PM on June 28, 2006
You're half right.
Other countries don't need a wall. But you're full of it if you think no one wants to go there. This USA exceptionalism you're promoting is nationalism at its worst.
Look HTuttle, if you are truly opposed to illegal immigration and/or really hate brown people, then contact you representative about PROSECUTING EMPLOYERS. Problem solved and you can go back into your insular little "we're the bestest and greatest evah" world and drink cheap beer while watching loops of NASCAR and NFL. Deal?
posted by nofundy at 12:52 PM on June 28, 2006
An ancient empire, a totalitarian state, and an apartheid situation - seems a good fit for the beacon of freedom and liberty that is was the United States.
We admit a tremendous number of new citizens per year already, so our status as a shining beacon isn't in any great danger if we could reduce illegal immigration.
And, massive illegal immigration is leading us towards the conditions you say you oppose. For one example, all Democratic leaders and some Republican leaders support in-state tuition for illegal aliens. In practice, that results in taking something away from U.S. citizens and giving it to illegal aliens, thereby devaluing the worth of U.S. citizenship.
-- Illegal immigration introduction
posted by LonewackoDotCom at 9:28 AM on June 30, 2006
We admit a tremendous number of new citizens per year already, so our status as a shining beacon isn't in any great danger if we could reduce illegal immigration.
And, massive illegal immigration is leading us towards the conditions you say you oppose. For one example, all Democratic leaders and some Republican leaders support in-state tuition for illegal aliens. In practice, that results in taking something away from U.S. citizens and giving it to illegal aliens, thereby devaluing the worth of U.S. citizenship.
-- Illegal immigration introduction
posted by LonewackoDotCom at 9:28 AM on June 30, 2006
Problem solved and you can go back into your insular little "we're the bestest and greatest evah" world and drink cheap beer while watching loops of NASCAR and NFL. Deal?
so... nofundy, you like a good stereotype now & then, eh? think about what you just wrote there? How is that different from writing about jews enjoying their penny pinching ways, or blacks getting back to their core competency of car stereo boosting? I know that's nothing to do with the argument at hand, but jesus, try not to be such a cliche spouting predjudiced stereotype-spouting ignorant fuck, if you can manage.
posted by jonson at 3:24 PM on July 2, 2006
so... nofundy, you like a good stereotype now & then, eh? think about what you just wrote there? How is that different from writing about jews enjoying their penny pinching ways, or blacks getting back to their core competency of car stereo boosting? I know that's nothing to do with the argument at hand, but jesus, try not to be such a cliche spouting predjudiced stereotype-spouting ignorant fuck, if you can manage.
posted by jonson at 3:24 PM on July 2, 2006
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posted by StrasbourgSecaucus at 8:55 PM on June 27, 2006