That's just the f-----' way it is.
November 10, 2007 5:07 PM Subscribe
"We're not going to be as strong as our weakest link"? I think you got that mixed up there.
posted by puke & cry at 5:12 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by puke & cry at 5:12 PM on November 10, 2007
"The only satisfaction I'm gonna get is from reaming all of your asses."
posted by Flashman at 5:17 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by Flashman at 5:17 PM on November 10, 2007
i'm the only important one on this stage
posted by pyramid termite at 5:18 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by pyramid termite at 5:18 PM on November 10, 2007
It's like Al Pacino's greatest, scenery-chewing scene, times 10, and real. Wow.
posted by Flashman at 5:19 PM on November 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by Flashman at 5:19 PM on November 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
I slice like a hammer.
posted by Astro Zombie at 5:21 PM on November 10, 2007 [3 favorites]
posted by Astro Zombie at 5:21 PM on November 10, 2007 [3 favorites]
No one is fucking dispensible.
posted by Evstar at 5:24 PM on November 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by Evstar at 5:24 PM on November 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Where's Joe?
posted by Astro Zombie at 5:25 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by Astro Zombie at 5:25 PM on November 10, 2007
Perfectionists in the music business. What's new? That's what makes them great. And assholes.
posted by Ironmouth at 5:29 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by Ironmouth at 5:29 PM on November 10, 2007
Guarantee void in Tennessee.
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:33 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:33 PM on November 10, 2007
I worked for a former Hollywood actor who used to behave like this. I walked out on him one day. I think its weirdly common in the entertainment industry. In fact, it's probably pretty common in every industry.
And this doesn't sound like perfectionism to me. This sounds like a manager who is unable to get the results he wants, and I would guess some of the fault lies with behavior like this. It's a lot to expect your employees to be more professional than you are.
posted by Astro Zombie at 5:38 PM on November 10, 2007
And this doesn't sound like perfectionism to me. This sounds like a manager who is unable to get the results he wants, and I would guess some of the fault lies with behavior like this. It's a lot to expect your employees to be more professional than you are.
posted by Astro Zombie at 5:38 PM on November 10, 2007
The full Buddy Rich audio experience (mp3, definitely NSFW).
posted by Kinbote at 5:41 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by Kinbote at 5:41 PM on November 10, 2007
Well, I've never been yelled at like that. Lord knows I deserve it.
posted by Flashman at 5:42 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by Flashman at 5:42 PM on November 10, 2007
A-yi-yi, my goof... there it all is on pyramid termite's link.
Looks like pt's the only important one on this page.
posted by Kinbote at 5:45 PM on November 10, 2007
Looks like pt's the only important one on this page.
posted by Kinbote at 5:45 PM on November 10, 2007
To think I did all that
And may I say - not in a shy way
No, oh no not me
I did it my way.
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 6:13 PM on November 10, 2007
And may I say - not in a shy way
No, oh no not me
I did it my way.
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 6:13 PM on November 10, 2007
It's stuff like this that makes me wary of leaving Canada. If we're the polite ones...?
posted by Reggie Digest at 6:29 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by Reggie Digest at 6:29 PM on November 10, 2007
Gosh, and he seemed so sweet in Girls Town. Even the nuns like him.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 6:33 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by Horace Rumpole at 6:33 PM on November 10, 2007
To think I did all that
And may I say - not in a shy way
No, oh no not me
I did it my way.
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium
You know, 30,000 children are going to die of starvation today, and all you can do is sing songs?
posted by Eekacat at 6:34 PM on November 10, 2007
And may I say - not in a shy way
No, oh no not me
I did it my way.
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium
You know, 30,000 children are going to die of starvation today, and all you can do is sing songs?
posted by Eekacat at 6:34 PM on November 10, 2007
It's always the mellow ones who are the secret jerks.
posted by GoodAaron at 6:46 PM on November 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by GoodAaron at 6:46 PM on November 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
shit.
damn - that got off to a rough start - he DOES need a better band, doesn't he?
To think I did all that
And may I say - not in a shy way
No, oh no not me
I did it my way.
someone had to do this, might as well be me
posted by pyramid termite at 6:48 PM on November 10, 2007
damn - that got off to a rough start - he DOES need a better band, doesn't he?
To think I did all that
And may I say - not in a shy way
No, oh no not me
I did it my way.
someone had to do this, might as well be me
posted by pyramid termite at 6:48 PM on November 10, 2007
Doesn't that go without saying?It's hard to be a secret jerk if you're already an outward jerk.
posted by Evstar at 6:48 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by Evstar at 6:48 PM on November 10, 2007
Fuck You, You Fucking Fuck (NSFW. The origin was Frank Booth)
posted by growabrain at 6:52 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by growabrain at 6:52 PM on November 10, 2007
paul anka sure gets around, doesn't he?
posted by pyramid termite at 6:58 PM on November 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by pyramid termite at 6:58 PM on November 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
that band DOES need help, doesn't it? - although why anyone should be expected to play that crap well is beyond me
how could ANYONE take that seriously?
posted by pyramid termite at 7:41 PM on November 10, 2007
how could ANYONE take that seriously?
posted by pyramid termite at 7:41 PM on November 10, 2007
These Guys Are Shirtless And Who Gives A Shit.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 8:32 PM on November 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 8:32 PM on November 10, 2007 [1 favorite]
Why isn't there a recording like this where everyone, at the end, says: "We quit. You are all alone. You have no one now. You are a one man show. Good luck."
Probably for the same reason that the subject in the Milgram experiment is anguished but cannot say, "Stop this. I won't do this anymore."
posted by SteelyDuran at 11:01 PM on November 10, 2007 [2 favorites]
Probably for the same reason that the subject in the Milgram experiment is anguished but cannot say, "Stop this. I won't do this anymore."
posted by SteelyDuran at 11:01 PM on November 10, 2007 [2 favorites]
On the subject of losing one's cool on-camera...
posted by clevershark at 11:45 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by clevershark at 11:45 PM on November 10, 2007
Oops, forgot to indicate that there's lots of expletives in my link, so it might be NSFW.
posted by clevershark at 11:46 PM on November 10, 2007
posted by clevershark at 11:46 PM on November 10, 2007
I have a new philosophy. I don't care if it's Jesus Christ. I'm the only important one on that stage. And it's my way or the highway.
I'm on that kind of an integrity kick.
Don't make a fuckin' maniac out of me.
posted by gompa at 12:15 AM on November 11, 2007
I'm on that kind of an integrity kick.
Don't make a fuckin' maniac out of me.
posted by gompa at 12:15 AM on November 11, 2007
Why isn't there a recording like this where everyone, at the end, says: "We quit. You are all alone. You have no one now. You are a one man show. Good luck."
Unfortunately, most musicians don't have the luxury of being able to simply walk away from well-paying gigs, even if the gig sucks -- like being stuck with an egotistical, maniacal lead singer, which is not at all uncommon. AAMOF most lead singers are egotistical and maniacal...and diabolical...and evil. Soundmen, too. Ultimately, you do what you must do to make a living.
Only plumbers put up with more shit than musicians. Still, it beats the hell out of shucking oysters.
posted by wsg at 1:59 AM on November 11, 2007
Unfortunately, most musicians don't have the luxury of being able to simply walk away from well-paying gigs, even if the gig sucks -- like being stuck with an egotistical, maniacal lead singer, which is not at all uncommon. AAMOF most lead singers are egotistical and maniacal...and diabolical...and evil. Soundmen, too. Ultimately, you do what you must do to make a living.
Only plumbers put up with more shit than musicians. Still, it beats the hell out of shucking oysters.
posted by wsg at 1:59 AM on November 11, 2007
I don't sound jaded at all, do I?
posted by wsg at 2:06 AM on November 11, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by wsg at 2:06 AM on November 11, 2007 [1 favorite]
who does fuck Paul think he is? Buddy Rich?
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 3:02 AM on November 11, 2007
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 3:02 AM on November 11, 2007
Sadly, this is all very common in any business where the big boss reads only his own PR and firmly believes that he alone is responsible for his success...and that the mountain of talent that supports them have absolutely nothing to do with said success.
It becomes even worse when said boss is merely riding on his own, old, coattails.
posted by Thorzdad at 5:27 AM on November 11, 2007
It becomes even worse when said boss is merely riding on his own, old, coattails.
posted by Thorzdad at 5:27 AM on November 11, 2007
damn - that got off to a rough start - he DOES need a better band, doesn't he?
Actually, he hired some of the best jazz & studio guys in LA for that CD. So I'll have to correct you. Any suckage present I'd blame on the cheesy arrangement, production and the ego of Paul Anka, not the band as a whole.
Studio musicians in LA are worker bees whose families are supported by making music, so they do what they're told. (I very rarely ran across one that wasn't uber professional.) A lot of them have spent their entire lives in music so they would have no clue what other career they'd even turn to. On projects like this, they're hired to be ego-less music machines... they know their instruments like the back of their hands and are there to stay in the background and make someone else look good in the spotlight.
Anyhow, that kind of studio gig is done for the rent, not out of passion. I can guarantee you that if you heard those bandmembers each playing the music they actually love, you'd be blown away.
posted by miss lynnster at 9:44 AM on November 11, 2007 [2 favorites]
Actually, he hired some of the best jazz & studio guys in LA for that CD. So I'll have to correct you. Any suckage present I'd blame on the cheesy arrangement, production and the ego of Paul Anka, not the band as a whole.
Studio musicians in LA are worker bees whose families are supported by making music, so they do what they're told. (I very rarely ran across one that wasn't uber professional.) A lot of them have spent their entire lives in music so they would have no clue what other career they'd even turn to. On projects like this, they're hired to be ego-less music machines... they know their instruments like the back of their hands and are there to stay in the background and make someone else look good in the spotlight.
Anyhow, that kind of studio gig is done for the rent, not out of passion. I can guarantee you that if you heard those bandmembers each playing the music they actually love, you'd be blown away.
posted by miss lynnster at 9:44 AM on November 11, 2007 [2 favorites]
Like the Alec Baldwin daughter call, this honestly reminds me of being at the dinner table with my father growing up. This is how he'd talk to my mom, me, and my sisters, including saying things like "I'm the only important one around here". You'd think he was finshed, that could relax a bit, and suddenly he'd blow up and start all over again.
"When I move, I slice like a hammer!"
Wait... what?
posted by autodidact at 12:04 PM on November 11, 2007
"When I move, I slice like a hammer!"
Wait... what?
posted by autodidact at 12:04 PM on November 11, 2007
Ya, like misslynnster...same about the musicians. From a former incarnation at Berklee and from what little I know about big band and chart reading those dudes sounded tight and on the money...
posted by greenskpr at 12:19 PM on November 11, 2007
posted by greenskpr at 12:19 PM on November 11, 2007
Actually, he hired some of the best jazz & studio guys in LA for that CD. So I'll have to correct you.
"the tape don't lie" - they were out of time in the intro - once they got into the main part of the song, they were fine and they were doing as well as they could have with a piece of trash like that
i don't care how good they are, if they're not given enough time to get the take right, it's going to sound off - which, to be fair, may well be a production decision - they needed more takes
either paul didn't care or didn't hear it - i'm not impressed
posted by pyramid termite at 1:04 PM on November 11, 2007
"the tape don't lie" - they were out of time in the intro - once they got into the main part of the song, they were fine and they were doing as well as they could have with a piece of trash like that
i don't care how good they are, if they're not given enough time to get the take right, it's going to sound off - which, to be fair, may well be a production decision - they needed more takes
either paul didn't care or didn't hear it - i'm not impressed
posted by pyramid termite at 1:04 PM on November 11, 2007
I still say blame the people running the show. With crap charts, poor organization & bad conducting, that kind of team effort can't come together perfectly no matter how good the individual members might be. Kinda like blaming one football player for losing a game. People often rise or fall based on what they're given to work with in that kind of a situation.
I've sang with big bands. Trust me, the elements that go into that kind of group performance aren't so simple or visible.
posted by miss lynnster at 3:54 PM on November 11, 2007
I've sang with big bands. Trust me, the elements that go into that kind of group performance aren't so simple or visible.
posted by miss lynnster at 3:54 PM on November 11, 2007
i kind of feel we're saying the same thing from different directions - i still think the band could be better - that doesn't even mean different musicians, just those musicians given a better set of circumstances - but it may well be that paul's his own worse enemy here
come to think of it, david lee roth's big band phase was better than this, wasn't it?
posted by pyramid termite at 4:18 PM on November 11, 2007
come to think of it, david lee roth's big band phase was better than this, wasn't it?
posted by pyramid termite at 4:18 PM on November 11, 2007
come to think of it, david lee roth's big band phase was better than this, wasn't it?
Insert DLR 'Just a Gigolo' here
...can't do it
posted by greenskpr at 5:00 PM on November 11, 2007
...can't do it
posted by greenskpr at 5:00 PM on November 11, 2007
Now listening 4th, 5th time, ears bleeding...it's the arrangement...listen to the lame intro. plus he snaps off the count down with one snap...thanks dick. Otherwise all the hits are there everyone is together, although they look scared or pissed.
posted by greenskpr at 5:07 PM on November 11, 2007
posted by greenskpr at 5:07 PM on November 11, 2007
LBJ should have been spending his time elsewhere!
posted by mxmiller at 12:24 AM on November 12, 2007
posted by mxmiller at 12:24 AM on November 12, 2007
I just love my studio jazz musicians so I get protective... I'll admit it. I know a few of the guys who were on the Paul Anka album. Over the years I'd go to their other small jazz shows & I've listened to them tell stories during their breaks... laughing together about other gigs they've had together. Especially the big studio ones. Cracking up about how so & so kept snapping off time or clapping next to the mic, or so and so gave half of the band old charts, or so and so decided to change keys in the middle of a bridge and the whole band tried to follow... and they all just laugh and roll their eyes and buy eachother another drink. And then when break is over, they go back on stage with their own band, where they make their own rules. But the big gigs pay more rent so you know they'll always have more fun stories next time.
posted by miss lynnster at 8:43 AM on November 12, 2007
posted by miss lynnster at 8:43 AM on November 12, 2007
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