Sandals, socks, and dudes
March 12, 2008 10:31 PM Subscribe
Truly, this is the best of the web.
posted by jeffamaphone at 10:35 PM on March 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by jeffamaphone at 10:35 PM on March 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
You have to kind of admire the big "fuck you", the big "I could give 2 shits about yer gaddam fashion" that these guys display. Of course, I myself could never be that brave. Never.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:37 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:37 PM on March 12, 2008
This is still around? I remember it from about five years ago. I still don't get it.
posted by Rich Smorgasbord at 10:37 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by Rich Smorgasbord at 10:37 PM on March 12, 2008
It asks so little and gives so much.
posted by tula at 10:38 PM on March 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by tula at 10:38 PM on March 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
Is this some kind of porn? I'm going to be mad if this is some kind of porn.
posted by shakespeherian at 10:44 PM on March 12, 2008 [12 favorites]
posted by shakespeherian at 10:44 PM on March 12, 2008 [12 favorites]
I don't know. I feel inclined to give British guys some slack with the socks thing, when they're at home. It's cold there.
posted by padraigin at 10:46 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by padraigin at 10:46 PM on March 12, 2008
Excellent use of the yep tag, BTW. Might you also consider a yup? I'd also like to suggest yessireebobbarooney!, which I think might be particularly appropriate in this case.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:46 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by flapjax at midnite at 10:46 PM on March 12, 2008
So if it's cold, why the sandals?
I'm going to be mad if this is some kind of porn.
I'm going to go mad if this is some sort of porn.
posted by maxwelton at 10:48 PM on March 12, 2008
I'm going to be mad if this is some kind of porn.
I'm going to go mad if this is some sort of porn.
posted by maxwelton at 10:48 PM on March 12, 2008
The answer was right there in front of me and I never saw it. I've been wearing sandals without socks for so long and I have, at times, been vaguely aware of my feet being cold.
No more.
posted by empyrean at 10:49 PM on March 12, 2008 [6 favorites]
No more.
posted by empyrean at 10:49 PM on March 12, 2008 [6 favorites]
I have a sincere question. Why is it considered wrong to wear socks with sandals. I hear this often, but do not understand it. Is it purely something of "style", meaning we have simply agreed that is wrong to do so.
Or is it something else. When one looks upon a person wearing sandals with socks does it actually have a biological effect that causes discomfort?
Maybe it is another possibility, such as there were people in the past who wore socks with sandals and these people were in some way terrible, leaving a bad impression on the clothing and footwear combinations they wore.
I am genuinely curious as to how this particular belief came about.
posted by LoopyG at 10:54 PM on March 12, 2008 [6 favorites]
Or is it something else. When one looks upon a person wearing sandals with socks does it actually have a biological effect that causes discomfort?
Maybe it is another possibility, such as there were people in the past who wore socks with sandals and these people were in some way terrible, leaving a bad impression on the clothing and footwear combinations they wore.
I am genuinely curious as to how this particular belief came about.
posted by LoopyG at 10:54 PM on March 12, 2008 [6 favorites]
So if it's cold, why the sandals?
Air circulation?
I don't know, I live in the Bay Area and see this phenomenon all the time, I've had to try to find ways to justify it so I don't go nuts.
Also: better, in most cases, than having to see someone's toes.
posted by padraigin at 10:54 PM on March 12, 2008
Air circulation?
I don't know, I live in the Bay Area and see this phenomenon all the time, I've had to try to find ways to justify it so I don't go nuts.
Also: better, in most cases, than having to see someone's toes.
posted by padraigin at 10:54 PM on March 12, 2008
Punk as fuck.
posted by Pseudonumb at 10:57 PM on March 12, 2008 [5 favorites]
posted by Pseudonumb at 10:57 PM on March 12, 2008 [5 favorites]
Bucket of socks.
posted by Tube at 10:57 PM on March 12, 2008 [5 favorites]
posted by Tube at 10:57 PM on March 12, 2008 [5 favorites]
I am genuinely curious as to how this particular belief came about.
It may be a holdover from when all sandals had a thing that went between your big toe and the rest of your toes, which is both uncomfortable and makes you look like you have ninja turtle feet.
posted by shakespeherian at 11:00 PM on March 12, 2008
It may be a holdover from when all sandals had a thing that went between your big toe and the rest of your toes, which is both uncomfortable and makes you look like you have ninja turtle feet.
posted by shakespeherian at 11:00 PM on March 12, 2008
When one looks upon a person wearing wears sandals with socks does it actually have a biological effect that causes discomfort?
Not upon the wearer, sir, not upon the wearer.
posted by mwhybark at 11:02 PM on March 12, 2008
Not upon the wearer, sir, not upon the wearer.
posted by mwhybark at 11:02 PM on March 12, 2008
Every single one of the guys on that website have a perfectly valid reason for wearing socks with sandals: ingrown toenails.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 11:04 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by flapjax at midnite at 11:04 PM on March 12, 2008
I have a sincere question. Why is it considered wrong to wear socks with sandals.
Dude. They're sandals. And socks.
posted by dersins at 11:05 PM on March 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
Dude. They're sandals. And socks.
posted by dersins at 11:05 PM on March 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
Am I imagining things, or are Great Britain and the great Pacific Northwest most commonly represented in these pics? I ask as a sandals-and-socks-in-the-summer PNW person.
posted by mwhybark at 11:08 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by mwhybark at 11:08 PM on March 12, 2008
Yep tag - “correct punctuation can make all the difference between—I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse and i helped my uncle jack off a horse.”
posted by growabrain at 11:09 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by growabrain at 11:09 PM on March 12, 2008
I can tolerate the kilt guys, because the socks are just part of the outfit. And I don't mind seeing white socks with the chunky Birkenstock-style sandals. But dark socks with sandals and shorts is a crime against humanity.
posted by amyms at 11:11 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by amyms at 11:11 PM on March 12, 2008
Count me among the camp who have never really understood why this is so anathema to some. I mean, yes, it's a bit goofy or old-guy or something, but not particularly worse than plaid shorts or what have you.
posted by dhartung at 11:12 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by dhartung at 11:12 PM on March 12, 2008
Sandals, because it is warm out and you want to let your feet air out.
Socks, because it is not quite warm enough for just sandals, but it is also dry and you want something to keep your feet clean (along with your ingrown nails) when you slip on your easy to walk around in sandals.
Also, because you like to wear just socks when you are inside your house, so it is nice to just leave the sandals in the front hall as soon as you come inside, without having to lace anything.
I think sandals are a grown up way of getting away with wearing velcro footwear, avoiding the taunting stigma you had as a child who couldn't tie shoelaces.
posted by mrzarquon at 11:14 PM on March 12, 2008
Socks, because it is not quite warm enough for just sandals, but it is also dry and you want something to keep your feet clean (along with your ingrown nails) when you slip on your easy to walk around in sandals.
Also, because you like to wear just socks when you are inside your house, so it is nice to just leave the sandals in the front hall as soon as you come inside, without having to lace anything.
I think sandals are a grown up way of getting away with wearing velcro footwear, avoiding the taunting stigma you had as a child who couldn't tie shoelaces.
posted by mrzarquon at 11:14 PM on March 12, 2008
And finally, while I have not unearthed photographic evidence of this as yet, in my head it is said that The Dude wears socks and sandals. This may support my PNW thesis, his being well-known as a member of the Seattle Seven. Or what have you.
posted by mwhybark at 11:15 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by mwhybark at 11:15 PM on March 12, 2008
Next up: suspenders, belts, and dudes!
posted by bwg at 11:15 PM on March 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by bwg at 11:15 PM on March 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos.
posted by tellurian at 11:18 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by tellurian at 11:18 PM on March 12, 2008
I only wear sandals year round...in the winter I wear socks.
I guess that's considered weird.
Wearing shoes...that's weird.
posted by rmmcclay at 11:20 PM on March 12, 2008
I guess that's considered weird.
Wearing shoes...that's weird.
posted by rmmcclay at 11:20 PM on March 12, 2008
Sandals, socks, and dudes
Sung to the tune of "Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves."
posted by scody at 11:27 PM on March 12, 2008 [7 favorites]
Sung to the tune of "Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves."
posted by scody at 11:27 PM on March 12, 2008 [7 favorites]
It's just sartorial xenophobia. Like those celebrity-clothes-gaffe sites, or ugly-photos sites: mildly meanspirited, jejune, and close-minded.
posted by Rich Smorgasbord at 11:32 PM on March 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Rich Smorgasbord at 11:32 PM on March 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
I'm tired of all the hate on the sandals and socks. We wear sandals because they rock. And socks because it's too cold to go without. What's the fucking problem there? Huh? I challenge you to be more fashionable than that. Don't bother trying. You're not. So fuck right off.
posted by Jawn at 11:35 PM on March 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by Jawn at 11:35 PM on March 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
It's all true! I am closed-minded, jejune and mildly gassy about sandals and socks. But I am pretty open-minded about the dudes.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 11:35 PM on March 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 11:35 PM on March 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
This has "emergent hipster-nerd fashion craze" written all over it. (Exhibit A.)
By the way, some of these dudes aren't dudes.
posted by naju at 11:38 PM on March 12, 2008
By the way, some of these dudes aren't dudes.
posted by naju at 11:38 PM on March 12, 2008
I have endured no small amount of derision for wearing sandal/sock combinations, even in the dim mists of the early paleo-grunge period, when, for a short time, the larger vertebrate docmartenshod coexisted peacefully with the more docile, phish-loving sandalsoxers.
posted by eclectist at 11:50 PM on March 12, 2008 [4 favorites]
posted by eclectist at 11:50 PM on March 12, 2008 [4 favorites]
Maybe if I had socks with separate toes I would wear them with flip-flops because they are hysterical. Another reason for socks is DIRT getting all over your feet. Want another reason? How about dirt mixing with sweaty summer feet and forming a stinky patina? eew.
posted by Cranberry at 11:51 PM on March 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by Cranberry at 11:51 PM on March 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
I don't wear sandals myself because my feet are frankly somewhat terrifying, but... dammit! I think they look nice sometimes! I don't care who knows!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:56 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:56 PM on March 12, 2008
When one looks upon a person wearing sandals with socks does it actually have a biological effect that causes discomfort?
It causes me to feel a sensation that I don't really know how to properly describe. Whatever the opposite of "horny" is.
Now, if you live in a climate where your feet may get cold when you wear sandals, there is an invention that can help alleviate what ails you.
That invention is BOOTS.
posted by louche mustachio at 11:57 PM on March 12, 2008 [12 favorites]
It causes me to feel a sensation that I don't really know how to properly describe. Whatever the opposite of "horny" is.
Now, if you live in a climate where your feet may get cold when you wear sandals, there is an invention that can help alleviate what ails you.
That invention is BOOTS.
posted by louche mustachio at 11:57 PM on March 12, 2008 [12 favorites]
Creepy.
posted by orthogonality at 11:59 PM on March 12, 2008
posted by orthogonality at 11:59 PM on March 12, 2008
socks + sandals = shoes - socks
Also, if wearing socks with sandals is wrong, then I don't ever want to be right.
posted by blue_beetle at 12:01 AM on March 13, 2008
Also, if wearing socks with sandals is wrong, then I don't ever want to be right.
posted by blue_beetle at 12:01 AM on March 13, 2008
It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos.
Socks and stilettos.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 12:02 AM on March 13, 2008
Socks and stilettos.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 12:02 AM on March 13, 2008
Support plus absorption equals comfort.
posted by Oriole Adams at 12:10 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by Oriole Adams at 12:10 AM on March 13, 2008
I knew this cat named Ardy - he wore sandals and socks (MP3) Via
posted by thedaniel at 12:13 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by thedaniel at 12:13 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
I will never outlive my senior year picture. People brought it up at my reunion last year. And my more fashionably-astute self today, for the curious.
posted by Christ, what an asshole at 12:13 AM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by Christ, what an asshole at 12:13 AM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
The relevant question, like with every fashion related issue, is "Is everyone taking crazy-pills?"
Sandals = comfortable open shoes you keep at work and which you change to more robust outdoor/city shoes for commuting, most of the year. When you wander a few hundred meters for lunch, you wear sandals. When you switch to your working sandals, do you take your socks off? Hell no. As a habit it is all too practical and sane to be judged because just because.
(I was told yesterday that I should finally get proper working sandals, it is not good if I always keep my outdoor shoes on. I work half day, so I'm not so accustomed to all of the workplace routines, but I see the point.)
posted by Free word order! at 12:25 AM on March 13, 2008
Sandals = comfortable open shoes you keep at work and which you change to more robust outdoor/city shoes for commuting, most of the year. When you wander a few hundred meters for lunch, you wear sandals. When you switch to your working sandals, do you take your socks off? Hell no. As a habit it is all too practical and sane to be judged because just because.
(I was told yesterday that I should finally get proper working sandals, it is not good if I always keep my outdoor shoes on. I work half day, so I'm not so accustomed to all of the workplace routines, but I see the point.)
posted by Free word order! at 12:25 AM on March 13, 2008
I will never outlive my senior year picture.
Well, if the picture burns up in a house fire or gets washed away in a flood or something, you may well outlive it. If the picture is kept in a safe, dry place and no such calamity befalls, however, it's safe to say the picture will outlive you.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 12:26 AM on March 13, 2008
Well, if the picture burns up in a house fire or gets washed away in a flood or something, you may well outlive it. If the picture is kept in a safe, dry place and no such calamity befalls, however, it's safe to say the picture will outlive you.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 12:26 AM on March 13, 2008
It causes me to feel a sensation that I don't really know how to properly describe. Whatever the opposite of "horny" is.
posted by louche mustachio at 2:57 AM on March 13
Eponysterical.
I've hated on this ever since I've been able to form conscious thoughts. I can't believe I just figured it out now.
It's because your toes? They're phallic-shaped. Yes. And so deep, deep down somewhere in your unconscious reptile brain, there is the realization that you have five dick-shaped appendages sticking out of the end of your foot.
And is a woolen condom sexy? No. No, it is not.
posted by twins named Lugubrious and Salubrious at 12:43 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by louche mustachio at 2:57 AM on March 13
Eponysterical.
I've hated on this ever since I've been able to form conscious thoughts. I can't believe I just figured it out now.
It's because your toes? They're phallic-shaped. Yes. And so deep, deep down somewhere in your unconscious reptile brain, there is the realization that you have five dick-shaped appendages sticking out of the end of your foot.
And is a woolen condom sexy? No. No, it is not.
posted by twins named Lugubrious and Salubrious at 12:43 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
It's referenced in the original post, but it's worth noting the "We're a lot like you" PEMCO ad campaign, highlighting Pacific Northwest stereotypes such as 'Sandals-and-Socks-guy'. It's spot-on.
posted by bbuda at 1:02 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by bbuda at 1:02 AM on March 13, 2008
I would like to declare for all to know that I once wore socks and Birks to the Army Navy Game.
That is all.
posted by zippy at 1:15 AM on March 13, 2008
That is all.
posted by zippy at 1:15 AM on March 13, 2008
What is the big deal? Everyone in Seattle does this.
posted by Jacqueline at 1:31 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by Jacqueline at 1:31 AM on March 13, 2008
Well, if the picture burns up in a house fire or gets washed away in a flood or something, you may well outlive it. If the picture is kept in a safe, dry place and no such calamity befalls, however, it's safe to say the picture will outlive you.
Well and now that it's on the frickin internet.
posted by shakespeherian at 2:08 AM on March 13, 2008
Well and now that it's on the frickin internet.
posted by shakespeherian at 2:08 AM on March 13, 2008
It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos.
I say we get this site running
Socks and stilettos!!
even worse, woollen socks and stilettos!
or black socks with white stilettos!
ah the endless possibilities~~~
posted by insatiablehee at 2:15 AM on March 13, 2008
What is the big deal? Everyone in Seattle does this.
Everyone in Seattle did heroin for a while, too. Just because everyone in Seattle does it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
I love socks. I love sandals. I have many pairs of both of these things. They are not allowed to be together, because socks entirely defeats the purpose of wearing sandals in the first place. Therefore, socks and sandals look ridiculous together. I'm not saying you don't have the right to cover your feet however you wish. Be my guest. I'm just saying it's an abomination and I will make fun of you.
posted by louche mustachio at 3:14 AM on March 13, 2008 [4 favorites]
Socks and stilettos!!
Black stiletto heeled Mary Janes and white socks.
posted by louche mustachio at 3:18 AM on March 13, 2008
Black stiletto heeled Mary Janes and white socks.
posted by louche mustachio at 3:18 AM on March 13, 2008
Now, WOMEN with sandals and socks? RrrrrrOWWrrrr.
posted by not_on_display at 3:19 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by not_on_display at 3:19 AM on March 13, 2008
Socks and sandals are an abomination against nature.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:23 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:23 AM on March 13, 2008
I had a teacher in grade 7 who was mocked mercilessly for his decision to wear socks (knee-highs) and sandals (the ones with the thong between the big and second toe) every single day, and yet he continued to do it. I met him at a colleague from my local theatre's house many years later and he was still wearing The Same Sandals (with white ankle socks).
He was seriously uncool, but he apparently didn't give a shit. (Hi, Mr Piper!)
posted by h00py at 3:25 AM on March 13, 2008
He was seriously uncool, but he apparently didn't give a shit. (Hi, Mr Piper!)
posted by h00py at 3:25 AM on March 13, 2008
So I'm guessing that for you footware fashionistas socks and crocs are okay?
And that leads us to ask when plastic shoes actually became cool*?
*except when actually gardening
posted by SteveInMaine at 3:30 AM on March 13, 2008
And that leads us to ask when plastic shoes actually became cool*?
*except when actually gardening
posted by SteveInMaine at 3:30 AM on March 13, 2008
So I'm guessing that for you footware fashionistas socks and crocs are okay?
Sweet merciful pancakes. HELL NO.
And that leads us to ask when plastic shoes actually became cool*?
Well, there were those jelly shoes... they were cool when I was eight.
*except when actually gardening
Or conducting autopsies. Apparently they are excellent if you occasionally need to hose viscera off your shoes.
posted by louche mustachio at 3:51 AM on March 13, 2008
Sweet merciful pancakes. HELL NO.
And that leads us to ask when plastic shoes actually became cool*?
Well, there were those jelly shoes... they were cool when I was eight.
*except when actually gardening
Or conducting autopsies. Apparently they are excellent if you occasionally need to hose viscera off your shoes.
posted by louche mustachio at 3:51 AM on March 13, 2008
Or conducting autopsies. Apparently they are excellent if you occasionally need to hose viscera off your shoes.
What an offal thought.
posted by SteveInMaine at 3:54 AM on March 13, 2008 [4 favorites]
What an offal thought.
posted by SteveInMaine at 3:54 AM on March 13, 2008 [4 favorites]
This guy seems awfully happy. He has long since left behind any need for fashion. Or pants.
This fellow also appears not to give a damn. (NOTE: That is not a kilt. That is a skirt.)
posted by louche mustachio at 4:08 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
This fellow also appears not to give a damn. (NOTE: That is not a kilt. That is a skirt.)
posted by louche mustachio at 4:08 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
Jesus, some people just do not give a shit. Much respect to the man.
And I'm not so sure about this being purely a UK / Pacific NW thing. Only a hunch, but I'm thinking a lot of Germans and Dutch in these pics.
posted by jontyjago at 4:11 AM on March 13, 2008
And I'm not so sure about this being purely a UK / Pacific NW thing. Only a hunch, but I'm thinking a lot of Germans and Dutch in these pics.
posted by jontyjago at 4:11 AM on March 13, 2008
Anyone else spot Linus Torvalds in there? Or a bloody good impersonator.
Open source = socks and sandals.
posted by slimepuppy at 4:12 AM on March 13, 2008
Open source = socks and sandals.
posted by slimepuppy at 4:12 AM on March 13, 2008
I rock white tube socks under black adidas flops. I am berated mericilessly for this by everyone who loves me, and whispered of by those who don't. But keep in mind, I don't do this for myself, either in ignorance of fashion nor in an anti-fashion. I do it because if I wear no socks on while my feet are in my flip-flops, they sweat, and then they smell. Bad. So, just remember when you see me with the socks and flip-flops: I do it for you.
posted by poppo at 4:14 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by poppo at 4:14 AM on March 13, 2008
Personally, I couldn't imagine wearing shoes at work all day, so once I get in, I switch to sandals and socks (both dark, like basically all of my pants are). It's common practice around here (Finland). Shoes would just get sweaty and uncomfortable during the day.
To reach faux pas status in these parts, you'd have to do the unholy trinity of shoes, sandals and shorts. Going outside with socks and sandals looks silly, too.
Let it be said that sandals without socks look just as odd when combined with pants instead of shorts. So, to recap: shorts + sandals, no socks = OK. Pants + sandals + socks = OK, as long as there are no strong contrasts between sock and sandal colors and you stay indoors. Anything else = not OK. If you care about trivial fashion issues like this, that is.
posted by lifeless at 4:16 AM on March 13, 2008
To reach faux pas status in these parts, you'd have to do the unholy trinity of shoes, sandals and shorts. Going outside with socks and sandals looks silly, too.
Let it be said that sandals without socks look just as odd when combined with pants instead of shorts. So, to recap: shorts + sandals, no socks = OK. Pants + sandals + socks = OK, as long as there are no strong contrasts between sock and sandal colors and you stay indoors. Anything else = not OK. If you care about trivial fashion issues like this, that is.
posted by lifeless at 4:16 AM on March 13, 2008
I have sweaty feet. For this reason I like to wear sandals. Also for this reason, if I don't wear socks when wearing anything at all on my feet then whatever it is will not be fit for human habitation in a very short period of time. Anyone who is offended by normal measures for staying clean and looking after your property is in luck though. I live in northern England and walk about five miles to and from work, and either of those facts on their own is enough to make sure I hardly ever wear sandals.
posted by vbfg at 4:20 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by vbfg at 4:20 AM on March 13, 2008
I wouldn't have been surprised to see a photo of my Dad among those. We always made fun of him about his sandals and socks and he just shrugged it off with "it's what I like to wear, so what?" attitude. Fair enough. But, I was visiting him recently and saw he was wearing a pair of Crocs. I couldn't even make fun of him, he would have picked up on my shock and utter horror and that would have hurt his feelings. I still get shivers thinking about them. I do not know if he was wearing socks with them, I couldn't look at them for long enough, but my guess is that he was.
posted by Elmore at 4:55 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by Elmore at 4:55 AM on March 13, 2008
I'm going to go mad if this is some sort of porn.
I gurantee you there's someone who would happily beat off to this. Hell, I might try it just as a challenge. I consider myself an upper-level masturbator.
Really, though, this just makes me feel like wearing my old 16-hole Gripfasts again and stomping around. I do like the odd mix of old British men and American dungeon masters, though.
posted by DecemberBoy at 4:59 AM on March 13, 2008 [3 favorites]
I gurantee you there's someone who would happily beat off to this. Hell, I might try it just as a challenge. I consider myself an upper-level masturbator.
Really, though, this just makes me feel like wearing my old 16-hole Gripfasts again and stomping around. I do like the odd mix of old British men and American dungeon masters, though.
posted by DecemberBoy at 4:59 AM on March 13, 2008 [3 favorites]
I wear socks with my Tevas during winter in Hong Kong, because at 5C, living in a concrete box with no heating system means uncovered feet go numb in short order.
That, and I just can't bring myself to wear bunny slippers.
posted by bwg at 5:07 AM on March 13, 2008
That, and I just can't bring myself to wear bunny slippers.
posted by bwg at 5:07 AM on March 13, 2008
I wear socks with my Crocs, but they're these ones, and I wear them with my funky hand-knit socks, so I'm okay, right? I'm still cool, right? Please tell me I'm cool....
posted by Lucinda at 5:11 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by Lucinda at 5:11 AM on March 13, 2008
Oh boy. Fashion.
Whenever "Fashion Faux Pas!" tabloid style articles or discussion, through improper internet drainage leak into my corner of the internet and contaminate the water table, the only thing I can think of is kids in my elementary school who made fun of kids who wore their backpacks with both shoulder straps on (the proper "cool" way was to carry your backpack with only one shoulder strap over one shoulder, putting all the weight on one side). Even at age 7 I found this completely ridiculous.
I'm pretty sure you can gather a collection of any given clothing article, hairstyle or accessory, and depending on the accompanying text and persistence behind it, make it either a social gaffe or the next fashion craze.
"Fashion Alert!: Uh oh! Jake Gyllenhal is out and about, but what's that on your feet, Jake? Socks and sandals? Looks like this 'Zodiac' star's horoscope didn't tell him this was a bad choice!"
...
"Whether burning up the red carpet, or a lazy day in the park, Scarlett Johanssen looks stunning! Scarlett plays up a casual, playful spring look with socks and sandals. Look out guys, this 'Black Dahlia' star is looking killer!
Christ, die in a fire.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 5:24 AM on March 13, 2008 [3 favorites]
Whenever "Fashion Faux Pas!" tabloid style articles or discussion, through improper internet drainage leak into my corner of the internet and contaminate the water table, the only thing I can think of is kids in my elementary school who made fun of kids who wore their backpacks with both shoulder straps on (the proper "cool" way was to carry your backpack with only one shoulder strap over one shoulder, putting all the weight on one side). Even at age 7 I found this completely ridiculous.
I'm pretty sure you can gather a collection of any given clothing article, hairstyle or accessory, and depending on the accompanying text and persistence behind it, make it either a social gaffe or the next fashion craze.
"Fashion Alert!: Uh oh! Jake Gyllenhal is out and about, but what's that on your feet, Jake? Socks and sandals? Looks like this 'Zodiac' star's horoscope didn't tell him this was a bad choice!"
...
"Whether burning up the red carpet, or a lazy day in the park, Scarlett Johanssen looks stunning! Scarlett plays up a casual, playful spring look with socks and sandals. Look out guys, this 'Black Dahlia' star is looking killer!
Christ, die in a fire.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 5:24 AM on March 13, 2008 [3 favorites]
Well, I wear socks and sandals and what sandals. If you have seen a woman in orange and electric blue birkenstocks and white ankle socks in the Bay Area that was me. Because you don't go half assed or half shod; either be deliriously good looking or so ugly it is a statement.
I love sandals because I have wide feet, like an elephant's, but I do not like getting the "patina" from sandals nor want to give freebies to foot fetishists so socks it is.
posted by jadepearl at 6:30 AM on March 13, 2008
I love sandals because I have wide feet, like an elephant's, but I do not like getting the "patina" from sandals nor want to give freebies to foot fetishists so socks it is.
posted by jadepearl at 6:30 AM on March 13, 2008
The first great betrayal of self that leads to all other betrayals.
posted by shothotbot at 6:53 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by shothotbot at 6:53 AM on March 13, 2008
This is why I love living in Oregon. I can run into the grocery store [or Nordstroms] wearing midweight fleece longjohns and half-eroded water sandals and a skull cap in winter, have a chat with a couple patients in all likelihood, and at no time will anyone register even the slightest curiosity regarding my sartorial choices. Contrast that with my visits to Orange County to see family and I got the feeling that it was a thirty minute prep job just to run out for a seven dollar coffee. And people wore shoes that I see in my wife's closet that never make it into the outside world because the weather would shred them.
The sad part is I had a bit of envy.
posted by docpops at 7:16 AM on March 13, 2008
The sad part is I had a bit of envy.
posted by docpops at 7:16 AM on March 13, 2008
I have this joke I play on my boss. I get pictures of him that I find on co-worker's cameras, or on his own (don't ask). Then I get odd or silly pictures from my photo library or from the internet and I photoshop his head onto someone else's body. Then I add some sort of headline that makes fun of his bizzare last name and have my hilarious girlfriend give me a quip to secret somewhere in the picture, on a cardboard plaque in the background for instance, or on the T-shirt of someone standing off to the side. I then print these pictures out at 11" X 17" and tape them to his office wall when he's out of town. My office is next to his, so when he returns and finds them I get to hear him swearing and/or laughing about it. He has no idea it's me who's doing this.
I have already depleted the 'Scared of Santa Gallery' of useful pics, but this socks-and-sandals website gives me fodder for about four more months (particularly these two pictures. Thank you, Metafilter!
posted by Pecinpah at 7:18 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
I have already depleted the 'Scared of Santa Gallery' of useful pics, but this socks-and-sandals website gives me fodder for about four more months (particularly these two pictures. Thank you, Metafilter!
posted by Pecinpah at 7:18 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
It may be a holdover from when all sandals had a thing that went between your big toe and the rest of your toes, which is both uncomfortable and makes you look like you have ninja turtle feet.
This is why tabi socks were invented.
posted by Faint of Butt at 7:21 AM on March 13, 2008
This is why tabi socks were invented.
posted by Faint of Butt at 7:21 AM on March 13, 2008
You have to kind of admire the big "fuck you"
That's how I feel about those hats that are umbrellas. Ever try one? Those things are damn practical. These will be consolation for that sad day when I realize I am finally and irretrievably off the market.
posted by StickyCarpet at 7:22 AM on March 13, 2008
That's how I feel about those hats that are umbrellas. Ever try one? Those things are damn practical. These will be consolation for that sad day when I realize I am finally and irretrievably off the market.
posted by StickyCarpet at 7:22 AM on March 13, 2008
So I'm guessing that for you footware fashionistas socks and crocs are okay?
Hello. My name is ND¢ and I . . . wear socks with crocs. And I'm not even an old man, I turned 30 in December. I have that same beige pair that Bush was wearing in that photo and I wear them with white tube socks. And I don't mean I wear them around the house either. I wear them out to movies, to friend's houses, social functions. T, Polo or button-up shirt, pair of jeans and socks with crocs. That is like my go to outfit from autumn to late spring. What can I say? They are comfortable. Sometimes it is too cold for just crocs. And I am married. I don't have to look good anymore or impress anyone. You don't like the way my shoes look? Well fuck you. If someone is the type of person who judges others based on their footwear then I don't care what that person thinks of me anyway. Part of getting older is letting go of this need for other's approval, especially strangers. So here's a nod to the guys on this website from me. We are brothers. We just don't give a fuck.
posted by ND¢ at 7:28 AM on March 13, 2008 [4 favorites]
Hello. My name is ND¢ and I . . . wear socks with crocs. And I'm not even an old man, I turned 30 in December. I have that same beige pair that Bush was wearing in that photo and I wear them with white tube socks. And I don't mean I wear them around the house either. I wear them out to movies, to friend's houses, social functions. T, Polo or button-up shirt, pair of jeans and socks with crocs. That is like my go to outfit from autumn to late spring. What can I say? They are comfortable. Sometimes it is too cold for just crocs. And I am married. I don't have to look good anymore or impress anyone. You don't like the way my shoes look? Well fuck you. If someone is the type of person who judges others based on their footwear then I don't care what that person thinks of me anyway. Part of getting older is letting go of this need for other's approval, especially strangers. So here's a nod to the guys on this website from me. We are brothers. We just don't give a fuck.
posted by ND¢ at 7:28 AM on March 13, 2008 [4 favorites]
I'm surprised that so many people can't understand something so simple. This isn't about "fashion", per se. It's about contradiction.
Sandals are for keeping cool. Socks are for keeping warm. They do not go together. It would be like wearing mittens with a tank top. Would that attract laughs and ridicule? Probably.
This can all be solved quite easily.
Men should not wear sandals. Ever. Sorry to be the one to tell you. Between dock shoes, sneakers, dress shoes, and boots (motorcycle, hiking, or cowboy), all your needs should be taken care of.
Women should wear sandals all the time, with no socks, unless:
1) they are engaged in athletic activity, and therefore sneakers
2) it is snowing, and therefore should wear boots
3) they are fly fishing, harvesting cranberries, or working in a slaughterhouse, when rubber hip-waders would be appropriate
See? Simple.
posted by Ynoxas at 7:51 AM on March 13, 2008 [3 favorites]
Sandals are for keeping cool. Socks are for keeping warm. They do not go together. It would be like wearing mittens with a tank top. Would that attract laughs and ridicule? Probably.
This can all be solved quite easily.
Men should not wear sandals. Ever. Sorry to be the one to tell you. Between dock shoes, sneakers, dress shoes, and boots (motorcycle, hiking, or cowboy), all your needs should be taken care of.
Women should wear sandals all the time, with no socks, unless:
1) they are engaged in athletic activity, and therefore sneakers
2) it is snowing, and therefore should wear boots
3) they are fly fishing, harvesting cranberries, or working in a slaughterhouse, when rubber hip-waders would be appropriate
See? Simple.
posted by Ynoxas at 7:51 AM on March 13, 2008 [3 favorites]
Wait. People are actually defending socks with sandals? And you actually can look yourself in the mirror when you say that?
Lets face it - if you practice bad fashion sense it's because you hate your fellow man and you wish for them to suffer in the utmost from having to see you walking down the street and noticing that you care not for the world or even yourself. Looking bad is not a defensible decision - it's a decision that should be mocked and ridiculed to be as selfish as stealing money from a homeless person's charity cup. People can justify any ridiculous behavior; that doesn't necessarily mean that your behavior should be accepted.
For fuck's sake, turn on the tv, open a fashion magazine and LEARN. It's not that hard.
posted by Stynxno at 8:04 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
Lets face it - if you practice bad fashion sense it's because you hate your fellow man and you wish for them to suffer in the utmost from having to see you walking down the street and noticing that you care not for the world or even yourself. Looking bad is not a defensible decision - it's a decision that should be mocked and ridiculed to be as selfish as stealing money from a homeless person's charity cup. People can justify any ridiculous behavior; that doesn't necessarily mean that your behavior should be accepted.
For fuck's sake, turn on the tv, open a fashion magazine and LEARN. It's not that hard.
posted by Stynxno at 8:04 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
I do actually wear sandals all the time, with no socks. All winter, I have been putting up with exclamations of "aren't your feet cold?"
posted by zennie at 8:04 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by zennie at 8:04 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
While we're on the subject of retarded footwear can we please spend some time dissing uggs? They're not slush+salt proof. And there are lots of very comfy winter boots out there that can satisfy your need to wear ugly things on your feet while keeping them nice and dry.
and ynoxas, attempting to prescribe the footwear of women is probably not a safe thing to do. eek.
posted by captaincrouton at 8:13 AM on March 13, 2008
and ynoxas, attempting to prescribe the footwear of women is probably not a safe thing to do. eek.
posted by captaincrouton at 8:13 AM on March 13, 2008
I would like to encourage people, in equal measure, to turn off the tv and set fire to fashion magazines (but not, however tempting it may be, fashion writers). It's not that hard.
Also, although I don't own any sandals, they would show off more of these socks so now I'm contemplating the possibility.
posted by Wolfdog at 8:14 AM on March 13, 2008
Also, although I don't own any sandals, they would show off more of these socks so now I'm contemplating the possibility.
posted by Wolfdog at 8:14 AM on March 13, 2008
My father loves Crocs- has many pairs, including a pair that's orange and more than one pair with the laces on top. I can't recall if he wears them with socks, but that's probably because he lives in Florida and I don't travel there when it's cold (cold for Florida, which is, ya know, under 60). I bet he would, though, and he would probably make it look cool, too, because that's the kind of dude he is. I must say, I can't get all that worked up about socks with sandals. This is because comfortable shoes are my fashion kryptonite. I own Uggs (fake from Payless, because I'm cheap), I own Crocs (again, fake from Target, because I'm cheap), and I have no shame- well, I have a little shame, but not enough to stop wearing them because comfortable shoes are where it's at.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 8:16 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 8:16 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
For fuck's sake, turn on the tv, open a fashion magazine and LEARN.
That is absolutely the dumbest sentence I have ever read, and I read Metafilter!
posted by ND¢ at 8:17 AM on March 13, 2008
That is absolutely the dumbest sentence I have ever read, and I read Metafilter!
posted by ND¢ at 8:17 AM on March 13, 2008
Lets face it - if you practice bad fashion sense it's because you hate your fellow man and you wish for them to suffer in the utmost from having to see you walking down the street and noticing that you care not for the world or even yourself.
Conversely, you are displaying an amazing amount of goodwill towards your fellow man.
For fuck's sake, turn on the tv, open a fashion magazine and LEARN.
These things are not for learning.
posted by ssg at 8:20 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
Conversely, you are displaying an amazing amount of goodwill towards your fellow man.
For fuck's sake, turn on the tv, open a fashion magazine and LEARN.
These things are not for learning.
posted by ssg at 8:20 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
Every single one of the guys on that website have a perfectly valid reason for wearing socks with sandals: ingrown toenails.
I used to get ingrown toenails that the most pro-waterboarding psychopath wouldn't in his most sadistic fantasies dream of inflicting on "enemy combatants". For a while, I wore sandals to help alleviate the pressure (sometimes with socks, sometimes not). Invariably, some careless soul would step on my foot, and then I'd be trailing blood all over the place (bad) or walking around in bloodsoaked socks (worse).
I eventually decided that it just wasn't worth it, and bought some steel-toed boots. After a couple of months of not being constantly aggrevated by a lack of protection, my toes healed to the point where I could just trim my nails properly (the definition of "properly" to someone who suffers from ingrown toenails being far different from that of the general public) and my problem ceased.
The thought of getting ingrown toenails again is bad, but I can't even bring myself to contemplate going the socks-and-sandals route with them again.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 8:24 AM on March 13, 2008
I used to get ingrown toenails that the most pro-waterboarding psychopath wouldn't in his most sadistic fantasies dream of inflicting on "enemy combatants". For a while, I wore sandals to help alleviate the pressure (sometimes with socks, sometimes not). Invariably, some careless soul would step on my foot, and then I'd be trailing blood all over the place (bad) or walking around in bloodsoaked socks (worse).
I eventually decided that it just wasn't worth it, and bought some steel-toed boots. After a couple of months of not being constantly aggrevated by a lack of protection, my toes healed to the point where I could just trim my nails properly (the definition of "properly" to someone who suffers from ingrown toenails being far different from that of the general public) and my problem ceased.
The thought of getting ingrown toenails again is bad, but I can't even bring myself to contemplate going the socks-and-sandals route with them again.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 8:24 AM on March 13, 2008
Sandals are for keeping cool.
You've obviously never walked through snow drifts in -30C weather in sandals. I weep for you.
Sandals are about comfort. Socks are about comfort. Comfort is about comfort.
posted by blue_beetle at 8:37 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
You've obviously never walked through snow drifts in -30C weather in sandals. I weep for you.
Sandals are about comfort. Socks are about comfort. Comfort is about comfort.
posted by blue_beetle at 8:37 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
Birkensocks.
posted by comiddle at 8:41 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by comiddle at 8:41 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
Conversely, you are displaying an amazing amount of goodwill towards your fellow man.
Nothing in my comment mentions my displaying goodwill towards my fellow man. Everything in my comment is combating people's defensive nature about how they look and what they wear. Clothes do not make a person who they are but they are, for some reason, a good way to show people how defensive and complacent with mediocraity they can be. Unless you're a hermit or a monk, when you step outside, you are entering into the world and participating in the community around you. Dressing poorly is a reflection of how you view the community around you.
These things are not for learning.
Yes they are. Fashion is visual and the visual mediums of television, magazines, photography and the like are very good at displaying and illustrating the concepts that make good fashion. To dismiss them is to limit your own ability to actively learn and grow.
posted by Stynxno at 8:45 AM on March 13, 2008
Nothing in my comment mentions my displaying goodwill towards my fellow man. Everything in my comment is combating people's defensive nature about how they look and what they wear. Clothes do not make a person who they are but they are, for some reason, a good way to show people how defensive and complacent with mediocraity they can be. Unless you're a hermit or a monk, when you step outside, you are entering into the world and participating in the community around you. Dressing poorly is a reflection of how you view the community around you.
These things are not for learning.
Yes they are. Fashion is visual and the visual mediums of television, magazines, photography and the like are very good at displaying and illustrating the concepts that make good fashion. To dismiss them is to limit your own ability to actively learn and grow.
posted by Stynxno at 8:45 AM on March 13, 2008
You've obviously never walked through snow drifts in -30C weather in sandals. I weep for you.
Tell it, my brother.
posted by zennie at 8:45 AM on March 13, 2008
Tell it, my brother.
posted by zennie at 8:45 AM on March 13, 2008
It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos.
...and a schoolgirl outfit. Terrible!
posted by katillathehun at 8:59 AM on March 13, 2008
...and a schoolgirl outfit. Terrible!
posted by katillathehun at 8:59 AM on March 13, 2008
Stynxno: TV is for a) entertainment and b) selling stuff.
Are you are so far down the rabbit hole that you truly "suffer in the utmost" when you see someone break the rules that TV has laid out for you?
posted by ssg at 9:00 AM on March 13, 2008
Are you are so far down the rabbit hole that you truly "suffer in the utmost" when you see someone break the rules that TV has laid out for you?
posted by ssg at 9:00 AM on March 13, 2008
No, he's not. He's just trolling, trying to stir up shit because he finds it amusing to do so.
posted by dersins at 9:12 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by dersins at 9:12 AM on March 13, 2008
You know somebody who wears socks with his sandals(nsfw)?
'Nuff said.
posted by SteveInMaine at 9:23 AM on March 13, 2008
'Nuff said.
posted by SteveInMaine at 9:23 AM on March 13, 2008
It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos.
...and a schoolgirl outfit. Terrible!
posted by katillathehun at 10:59 AM on March 13 [+] [!]
First, those little frilly numbers with the lace around the top don't count as socks. They are lingerie.
Second, while I wouldn't get upset over the stilettos, I think the canonical footwear choice for the schoolgirl outfit is saddle oxfords. No?
Related story... on my very last day of undergrad, taking my very last final, which was Russian, a girl that sat on the front row, always fairly modestly dressed, came in wearing something straight out of a Van Halen video (I don't feel tardy). Belly button showing white top, TINY plaid skirt, and some lace tights that came up right above the knee, but below the tiny skirt, and some black patent pumps. Yes, I remember this in detail even though it was many years ago.
I assume her goal was to blow the concentration of half the class, and therefore blow the grading curve.
posted by Ynoxas at 9:26 AM on March 13, 2008
...and a schoolgirl outfit. Terrible!
posted by katillathehun at 10:59 AM on March 13 [+] [!]
First, those little frilly numbers with the lace around the top don't count as socks. They are lingerie.
Second, while I wouldn't get upset over the stilettos, I think the canonical footwear choice for the schoolgirl outfit is saddle oxfords. No?
Related story... on my very last day of undergrad, taking my very last final, which was Russian, a girl that sat on the front row, always fairly modestly dressed, came in wearing something straight out of a Van Halen video (I don't feel tardy). Belly button showing white top, TINY plaid skirt, and some lace tights that came up right above the knee, but below the tiny skirt, and some black patent pumps. Yes, I remember this in detail even though it was many years ago.
I assume her goal was to blow the concentration of half the class, and therefore blow the grading curve.
posted by Ynoxas at 9:26 AM on March 13, 2008
socks + sandals = shoes - socks
Does that mean that shoes = sandals + 2 socks ?
posted by redyaky at 9:26 AM on March 13, 2008 [4 favorites]
Does that mean that shoes = sandals + 2 socks ?
posted by redyaky at 9:26 AM on March 13, 2008 [4 favorites]
Dressing poorly is a reflection of how you view the community around you.
Making sweeping generalized statements that reflect your opinion alone but which allude to more objective evidence may indicate a personality disorder.
posted by docpops at 9:28 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
Making sweeping generalized statements that reflect your opinion alone but which allude to more objective evidence may indicate a personality disorder.
posted by docpops at 9:28 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
I automatically associate men who wear socks and sandals with the men in my life that have worn socks with sandals; for the most part, they were cheap, lazy and gross, and yes, in that order. Defend it all you want to me, but I will never, EVER find it attractive, cute, funny, or anything other than repulsive to a degree of N.
If I were single and a potential suitor admitted to ever wearing socks with sandals on purpose, I would not date that person.
As a woman, one of the things that truly matters to me is how a man dresses for himself; I look at his choice of clothing not only for its style alone but the way he dresses for different occasions. The same goes for his shoes. It's important to me.
That being said, everyone has a right to his or her opinion, and I respect others' rights to wear whatever they want. I just find it ugly and unstylish beyond belief.
After all, would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe? Because to me, it's the same thing. Comfort should not be the only discerning factor in how you look every day... if comfort were the definition of sexy, heels and garter belts would never have existed.
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 9:30 AM on March 13, 2008
If I were single and a potential suitor admitted to ever wearing socks with sandals on purpose, I would not date that person.
As a woman, one of the things that truly matters to me is how a man dresses for himself; I look at his choice of clothing not only for its style alone but the way he dresses for different occasions. The same goes for his shoes. It's important to me.
That being said, everyone has a right to his or her opinion, and I respect others' rights to wear whatever they want. I just find it ugly and unstylish beyond belief.
After all, would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe? Because to me, it's the same thing. Comfort should not be the only discerning factor in how you look every day... if comfort were the definition of sexy, heels and garter belts would never have existed.
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 9:30 AM on March 13, 2008
if you practice bad fashion sense it's because you hate your fellow man and you wish for them to suffer
I've always thought that people who were overly concerned with their wardrobe were usually overcompensating for being ugmos. "Yes, I have a third nipple growing out of my cheek and that horn needs a trimmin', but hey, check out my nice slacks!"
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:31 AM on March 13, 2008
I've always thought that people who were overly concerned with their wardrobe were usually overcompensating for being ugmos. "Yes, I have a third nipple growing out of my cheek and that horn needs a trimmin', but hey, check out my nice slacks!"
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:31 AM on March 13, 2008
These things are not for learning.
Yes they are. Fashion is visual and the visual mediums of television, magazines, photography and the like are very good at displaying and illustrating the concepts that make good fashion. To dismiss them is to limit your own ability to actively learn and grow.
Fashion is for selling clothes, and it is not the same thing as style. Style transcends fashion; it doesn't require you to read magazines and buy new clothes every season. It's entirely possible to buy fashionable clothes and still look like crap; and stylish people can wear clothes that are completely out of date and still look comfortable, sleek, and confident. Is it possible for some guy to wear socks and sandals with style? I think so*, but this site wouldn't be that much fun if it showed men looking good in socks and sandals.
* I'm skeptical. I'm not ruling it out, though.
posted by oneirodynia at 9:35 AM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
Yes they are. Fashion is visual and the visual mediums of television, magazines, photography and the like are very good at displaying and illustrating the concepts that make good fashion. To dismiss them is to limit your own ability to actively learn and grow.
Fashion is for selling clothes, and it is not the same thing as style. Style transcends fashion; it doesn't require you to read magazines and buy new clothes every season. It's entirely possible to buy fashionable clothes and still look like crap; and stylish people can wear clothes that are completely out of date and still look comfortable, sleek, and confident. Is it possible for some guy to wear socks and sandals with style? I think so*, but this site wouldn't be that much fun if it showed men looking good in socks and sandals.
* I'm skeptical. I'm not ruling it out, though.
posted by oneirodynia at 9:35 AM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
After all, would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe?
...yes?
posted by shakespeherian at 9:35 AM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
...yes?
posted by shakespeherian at 9:35 AM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
This thread is a litmus test.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:38 AM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:38 AM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
This is like religious people discussing about what kind of women wear miniskirts. Your cultural associations may look like bigotry to other cultures.
posted by Free word order! at 9:42 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by Free word order! at 9:42 AM on March 13, 2008
After all, would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe?
...yes?
Yeah, that's... that's pretty sexy, is what that is.
posted by Faint of Butt at 9:45 AM on March 13, 2008
...yes?
Yeah, that's... that's pretty sexy, is what that is.
posted by Faint of Butt at 9:45 AM on March 13, 2008
Comfort should not be the only discerning factor in how you look every day... if comfort were the definition of sexy, heels and garter belts would never have existed.
I completely disagree. There's nothing more un-sexy than someone who looks uncomfortable in whatever they are wearing. Women who can't manage high heels do not look hot tottering and lurching all over the place. However, a woman sprinting down the street in her pumps to catch a bus looks pretty damn cool. If you can't do the things you need to do in the clothes you wear, something is wrong with your choices. That doesn't mean you have to wear unattractive clothes-
comfort vs. style is a false dichotomy.
Also: garter belts are way more comfortable than tights.
posted by oneirodynia at 9:47 AM on March 13, 2008
I completely disagree. There's nothing more un-sexy than someone who looks uncomfortable in whatever they are wearing. Women who can't manage high heels do not look hot tottering and lurching all over the place. However, a woman sprinting down the street in her pumps to catch a bus looks pretty damn cool. If you can't do the things you need to do in the clothes you wear, something is wrong with your choices. That doesn't mean you have to wear unattractive clothes-
comfort vs. style is a false dichotomy.
Also: garter belts are way more comfortable than tights.
posted by oneirodynia at 9:47 AM on March 13, 2008
"Mr. Romo, I must admit that I'm puzzled. You hipsters claim to be such relaxed free spirits, yet your rules for social behaviour are even more set, tight, and rigid than those of square society."
-- Del Close
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posted by Herodios at 9:50 AM on March 13, 2008
Dressing well is not "rules that TV has laid out". I don't need TV or a fashion mag to know that I will make a significantly worse impression on the people around me if I'm wearing stained gray baggy sweatpants and a ratty frayed tanktop rather than clothes which fit neatly and go well with each other. I don't think it's shallow to be aware of and take an interest in how I am visually presenting myself to the rest of the world, if I'm going to be an active participant in the world at all.
On preview, oneirodynia totally nails it. TV is selling fashion. I'm talking about style.
The problem with socks and sandals together is that the socks say you want your feet covered, but the sandals say you don't care if they're unprotected.
However, in the interest of fairness, I have to note that certain venues are starting to push the look for women
posted by casarkos at 9:50 AM on March 13, 2008
On preview, oneirodynia totally nails it. TV is selling fashion. I'm talking about style.
The problem with socks and sandals together is that the socks say you want your feet covered, but the sandals say you don't care if they're unprotected.
However, in the interest of fairness, I have to note that certain venues are starting to push the look for women
posted by casarkos at 9:50 AM on March 13, 2008
I never wore sandals and socks together, but only because i thought it wasn't comfortable. If it was comfortable for me i probably would have. I don't give a shit what is fashionable...
posted by schyler523 at 9:54 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by schyler523 at 9:54 AM on March 13, 2008
I must admit this bugs me just a little. And in Seattle it's all around. It's not a fashion statement here. It's a statement of political alignment. It says "Yes. You can relax. I mean you no harm. I am one of those types of people. Here. Have a tofu bean-curd brownie."
Remove the $250 dollar Patagonia fleece, take the "You can't hug your kids with nuclear arms" bumper sticker and Kayak rack off your 1982 Volvo. Please. Allow me to discover the mystery that is you.
While I usually dress in jeans and whatever random thing isn't in a pile on the floor. A couple days per week I at least try to wear a few things with some flair. Try to shake it up now and then.
So. We have a tradition. On my birthday my wife takes me to Barney's and I am forbidden from looking at any price tags. Literally. If I did I'm sure I would shit. I buy one outfit.
The fact is well made clothes tend to last longer and remain in style longer. Consequently I own fewer clothes than most my peers.
I've always thought that people who were overly concerned with their wardrobe were usually overcompensating for being ugmos.
You must never have been to a major metropolitan city anywhere in the world. We just came back from Paris in January and I spend a couple week in New York in September. Those people look good. Generally people into style and nicer clothes tend to be much more attractive and in better shape than the norm.
posted by tkchrist at 9:57 AM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
Remove the $250 dollar Patagonia fleece, take the "You can't hug your kids with nuclear arms" bumper sticker and Kayak rack off your 1982 Volvo. Please. Allow me to discover the mystery that is you.
While I usually dress in jeans and whatever random thing isn't in a pile on the floor. A couple days per week I at least try to wear a few things with some flair. Try to shake it up now and then.
So. We have a tradition. On my birthday my wife takes me to Barney's and I am forbidden from looking at any price tags. Literally. If I did I'm sure I would shit. I buy one outfit.
The fact is well made clothes tend to last longer and remain in style longer. Consequently I own fewer clothes than most my peers.
I've always thought that people who were overly concerned with their wardrobe were usually overcompensating for being ugmos.
You must never have been to a major metropolitan city anywhere in the world. We just came back from Paris in January and I spend a couple week in New York in September. Those people look good. Generally people into style and nicer clothes tend to be much more attractive and in better shape than the norm.
posted by tkchrist at 9:57 AM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
Comfort should not be the only discerning factor in how you look every day... if comfort were the definition of sexy, heels and garter belts would never have existed.
I completely disagree.
Oneirodynia, so you're saying comfort should be the ONLY discerning factor in how you look every day?
I will certainly agree with you that different people are comfortable wearing different things, and that what is painful or uncomfortable to some is second nature to others. We've all got a friend who runs across cobblestone streets in 7-inch stilettos; it's just not for me (though I secretly envy those girls myself).
All I am saying is, that if I were a man, I'd be terribly uncomfortable wearing socks and sandals in public. I don't think we are necessarily disagreeing here are all; we just have different tastes.
I won't argue that garter belts are less comfortable than tights; I will however argue that not every woman looks good in garters, and some women prefer NEITHER tights nor garter belts, as that is the MOST comfortable, at least for me!
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 10:02 AM on March 13, 2008
I completely disagree.
Oneirodynia, so you're saying comfort should be the ONLY discerning factor in how you look every day?
I will certainly agree with you that different people are comfortable wearing different things, and that what is painful or uncomfortable to some is second nature to others. We've all got a friend who runs across cobblestone streets in 7-inch stilettos; it's just not for me (though I secretly envy those girls myself).
All I am saying is, that if I were a man, I'd be terribly uncomfortable wearing socks and sandals in public. I don't think we are necessarily disagreeing here are all; we just have different tastes.
I won't argue that garter belts are less comfortable than tights; I will however argue that not every woman looks good in garters, and some women prefer NEITHER tights nor garter belts, as that is the MOST comfortable, at least for me!
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 10:02 AM on March 13, 2008
You've obviously never walked through snow drifts in -30C weather in sandals.
What kind of idiot does that?
posted by tkchrist at 10:02 AM on March 13, 2008
What kind of idiot does that?
posted by tkchrist at 10:02 AM on March 13, 2008
There are times when your comfort is less important that social etiquette.
For instance on air planes. It's disgusting that people wear shorts and tank tops in cramped flights where people are in close contact for hours.
Hey. Why can't I wear my fuzzy bear jammies to your wedding?
I have attended job interviews and meetings with major executives where people show up in ratty jeans and t-shirts.
I think our public and professional spaces have become unduly polluted by this obsession for comfort. To our detriment. I don't think people need to wear dinner tuxes 24/7 but you could put on a nice pair of slacks and decent shoes when you go out to dinner, mmm'kay?
This obsession of comfort wear is no less driven by mass media and consumerism than higher styled fashions - nobody should fool them selves about that (and I think to a degree it is driven by the fact that Americans are more obese and require looser clothing). Take the price and insane marketing of tennis shoes and "athletic wear" for example of comfort being simply another consumer marketing gimmick.
posted by tkchrist at 10:15 AM on March 13, 2008
For instance on air planes. It's disgusting that people wear shorts and tank tops in cramped flights where people are in close contact for hours.
Hey. Why can't I wear my fuzzy bear jammies to your wedding?
I have attended job interviews and meetings with major executives where people show up in ratty jeans and t-shirts.
I think our public and professional spaces have become unduly polluted by this obsession for comfort. To our detriment. I don't think people need to wear dinner tuxes 24/7 but you could put on a nice pair of slacks and decent shoes when you go out to dinner, mmm'kay?
This obsession of comfort wear is no less driven by mass media and consumerism than higher styled fashions - nobody should fool them selves about that (and I think to a degree it is driven by the fact that Americans are more obese and require looser clothing). Take the price and insane marketing of tennis shoes and "athletic wear" for example of comfort being simply another consumer marketing gimmick.
posted by tkchrist at 10:15 AM on March 13, 2008
Oneirodynia, so you're saying comfort should be the ONLY discerning factor in how you look every day?
Certainly not. I'm saying there's no dichotomy there, and I strongly believe that a huge part of personal style comes from people looking comfortable in the choices they've made. You can't by that, and that's why "fashion" can't be counted on to somehow make people stylish.
posted by oneirodynia at 10:15 AM on March 13, 2008
Certainly not. I'm saying there's no dichotomy there, and I strongly believe that a huge part of personal style comes from people looking comfortable in the choices they've made. You can't by that, and that's why "fashion" can't be counted on to somehow make people stylish.
posted by oneirodynia at 10:15 AM on March 13, 2008
by = buy
posted by oneirodynia at 10:15 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by oneirodynia at 10:15 AM on March 13, 2008
tk - I think this is a problem in the NW moreso than other places. As much as I enjoy the laid back attitude about garments - borne partly out of the changeability of our weather patterns - I too become dispirited at the sight of people showing up for special events, fine dining, shows, etc., looking like seven-year-olds. Good with the bad, as it were, I guess.
posted by docpops at 10:21 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by docpops at 10:21 AM on March 13, 2008
O, it appears that you and I agree on style and fashion, then. In general.
Still think sandals + socks = gross, but love on you!
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 10:22 AM on March 13, 2008
Still think sandals + socks = gross, but love on you!
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 10:22 AM on March 13, 2008
For instance on air planes. It's disgusting that people wear shorts and tank tops in cramped flights where people are in close contact for hours.
This is what happens when people believe style and comfort are two different things. I have the best pair of pleated knit palazzo pants that feel like pyjamas, but get me complements wherever I go. Those are my flying clothes- they're crisply pleated but cozy, don't wrinkle, don't require a belt, and look great with a slim tee and a well cut fuzzy hooded sweater and a scarf. I can get off a plane in Berlin and not feel like a complete bum if I want to head immediately out on the town, in spite of having slept in my clothes.
posted by oneirodynia at 10:22 AM on March 13, 2008
This is what happens when people believe style and comfort are two different things. I have the best pair of pleated knit palazzo pants that feel like pyjamas, but get me complements wherever I go. Those are my flying clothes- they're crisply pleated but cozy, don't wrinkle, don't require a belt, and look great with a slim tee and a well cut fuzzy hooded sweater and a scarf. I can get off a plane in Berlin and not feel like a complete bum if I want to head immediately out on the town, in spite of having slept in my clothes.
posted by oneirodynia at 10:22 AM on March 13, 2008
Still think sandals + socks = gross, but love on you!
Me too, mostly, but I believe there's some guy in the world that can pull it off. He probably lives in a house he built himself using japanese joinery, wrenches on ducati bikes, and used to be in a punk band but now leads three day mushroom hunts in the forest. At the very least, he'd have to have a appreciation of somehow eking harmony out of conflicting elements with grace and humor.
posted by oneirodynia at 10:28 AM on March 13, 2008
Me too, mostly, but I believe there's some guy in the world that can pull it off. He probably lives in a house he built himself using japanese joinery, wrenches on ducati bikes, and used to be in a punk band but now leads three day mushroom hunts in the forest. At the very least, he'd have to have a appreciation of somehow eking harmony out of conflicting elements with grace and humor.
posted by oneirodynia at 10:28 AM on March 13, 2008
BTW, at a big party at my old house, one of my friends was in awe that his musical hero, Jack Dangers, was just casually hanging out on our shabby couch in his black socks and sandals.
posted by oneirodynia at 10:36 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by oneirodynia at 10:36 AM on March 13, 2008
casarkos: I don't think it's shallow to be aware of and take an interest in how I am visually presenting myself to the rest of the world, if I'm going to be an active participant in the world at all.
I'm certainly not arguing that it is shallow, nor is anyone else in the thread, I don't think. There is nothing wrong with being stylish (or even fashionable, if you so desire). What is wrong is believing that being unfashionable (according to whatever standard) is somehow a manifestation of hatred for others.
Some people want to be stylish and others don't care as much. I'd suggest that a little live and let live could go a long way. Arguing that others have to dress a certain way not to insult you seems like a short step from arguing that women have to wear skirts and high heels for your enjoyment or conversely that women have to wear burkas (not that I think you are advancing this argument, casarkos).
posted by ssg at 10:41 AM on March 13, 2008
I'm certainly not arguing that it is shallow, nor is anyone else in the thread, I don't think. There is nothing wrong with being stylish (or even fashionable, if you so desire). What is wrong is believing that being unfashionable (according to whatever standard) is somehow a manifestation of hatred for others.
Some people want to be stylish and others don't care as much. I'd suggest that a little live and let live could go a long way. Arguing that others have to dress a certain way not to insult you seems like a short step from arguing that women have to wear skirts and high heels for your enjoyment or conversely that women have to wear burkas (not that I think you are advancing this argument, casarkos).
posted by ssg at 10:41 AM on March 13, 2008
I've always thought that people who were overly concerned with their wardrobe were usually overcompensating for being ugmos.
>>Generally people into style and nicer clothes tend to be much more attractive and in better shape than the norm.
Six in one, half dozen in the other. We're just looking at the half-empty glass from opposite generalized ends.
...would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe?
Yes. Yes I would.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:43 AM on March 13, 2008
>>Generally people into style and nicer clothes tend to be much more attractive and in better shape than the norm.
Six in one, half dozen in the other. We're just looking at the half-empty glass from opposite generalized ends.
...would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe?
Yes. Yes I would.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:43 AM on March 13, 2008
JACK DANGERS
NO NO NO NO
I worship him and now my brain is bleeding. DAMN YOU, Oneirodynia!
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 10:45 AM on March 13, 2008
NO NO NO NO
I worship him and now my brain is bleeding. DAMN YOU, Oneirodynia!
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 10:45 AM on March 13, 2008
After all, would you get aroused by a woman walking around in her plaid fluffy pajamas and robe?
If it were my beloved? Christ, yes. Like the fist of an angry God yes. Give me an honest, open smile and a threadbare old nightshirt over fancy-ass garters and a fake sultry who-farted look any day.
I just find it ugly and unstylish beyond belief.
And unless you're in a position where your irrational prejudices can hurt me, I don't give a good goddam what you think about how I dress.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:51 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
If it were my beloved? Christ, yes. Like the fist of an angry God yes. Give me an honest, open smile and a threadbare old nightshirt over fancy-ass garters and a fake sultry who-farted look any day.
I just find it ugly and unstylish beyond belief.
And unless you're in a position where your irrational prejudices can hurt me, I don't give a good goddam what you think about how I dress.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:51 AM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
JACK DANGERS
NO NO NO NO
I worship him and now my brain is bleeding. DAMN YOU, Oneirodynia!
Heh. I forgave him for though, because he was really interested in our indoor pond and even fed our turtle. An all around genuinely nice and talented guy. I just avoided looking at his feet for the rest of the night.
posted by oneirodynia at 11:06 AM on March 13, 2008
NO NO NO NO
I worship him and now my brain is bleeding. DAMN YOU, Oneirodynia!
Heh. I forgave him for though, because he was really interested in our indoor pond and even fed our turtle. An all around genuinely nice and talented guy. I just avoided looking at his feet for the rest of the night.
posted by oneirodynia at 11:06 AM on March 13, 2008
It could have been worse, say, socks and stilettos.
But that's a central component of the ZZTop makeover!
posted by jrossi4r at 11:09 AM on March 13, 2008
But that's a central component of the ZZTop makeover!
posted by jrossi4r at 11:09 AM on March 13, 2008
Argh. Just because stuff is comfy doesn't mean it has to be ugly. There are these newfangled airy shoes and they have light mesh in non-structural places. They're even designed to drain water out of when they get wet just like sandals. They're not that expensive. And you can wear socks with them and wear them to work and not be a total dork.
I think the "I don't care about what i look like so deal with it" crowd is missing a point that perhaps they haven't considered. Not caring what you look like at all up to the point of looking totally different from the rest of the population takes nearly the same amount of effort as caring enough to fit in. The reason for that is that everyday interactions tend to take longer because the commercial-dazed masses think you are a crazy nut and treat you worse. You're gonna wait longer for crappier service just because of the way you look.
The other (hopefully last) point is that cheaply/shoddily made "nice looking" clothes/shoes(might still be expensive to buy though) tend to be ill fitting and very uncomfortable. I think a lot of people get fed up with this and retreat to their "comfy" but ugly clothes/shoes where as if they could buy quality "nice" and well fitting clothes/shoes, they'd find the comfort level much higher. And as a bonus they'd get better service.
posted by captaincrouton at 11:25 AM on March 13, 2008
I think the "I don't care about what i look like so deal with it" crowd is missing a point that perhaps they haven't considered. Not caring what you look like at all up to the point of looking totally different from the rest of the population takes nearly the same amount of effort as caring enough to fit in. The reason for that is that everyday interactions tend to take longer because the commercial-dazed masses think you are a crazy nut and treat you worse. You're gonna wait longer for crappier service just because of the way you look.
The other (hopefully last) point is that cheaply/shoddily made "nice looking" clothes/shoes(might still be expensive to buy though) tend to be ill fitting and very uncomfortable. I think a lot of people get fed up with this and retreat to their "comfy" but ugly clothes/shoes where as if they could buy quality "nice" and well fitting clothes/shoes, they'd find the comfort level much higher. And as a bonus they'd get better service.
posted by captaincrouton at 11:25 AM on March 13, 2008
Socks under sandals achieve some basic objectives; The sock provides padding and facilitates moderate movement between the skin and the sandal, alleviating problems like strap marks and chafing. Furthermore, the sock soaks up sweat from areas where the foot have no direct access to air, and distributes it to ventilated areas, leading to a more evenly cooled foot, and alleviating problems like blisters and chafing through overheating.
posted by Catfry at 11:50 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by Catfry at 11:50 AM on March 13, 2008
I will sometimes rock the socks + sandals but only when sporting the more outrageous specimens in my weird sock collection. Shoes + long pants don't give these fine examples of suburban kitsch the kind of exposure they require. I always felt the same way about underoos8212;which I always wanted but was never allowed to have...probably because my parents knew I'd be wearing them sans over-garments for full effect.
posted by Fezboy! at 11:59 AM on March 13, 2008
posted by Fezboy! at 11:59 AM on March 13, 2008
You're gonna wait longer for crappier service just because of the way you look.
Then, at the end of the day, judgemental jackasses wonder why they don't get very nice tips.
posted by stevis23 at 12:29 PM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
Then, at the end of the day, judgemental jackasses wonder why they don't get very nice tips.
posted by stevis23 at 12:29 PM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
You know, I'm scanning through this website, and I'm wondering how the hell it comes to pass that there are pictures of random guys in their underwear all over the internet. How does that happen? How do people just randomly lose control of very private stuff like that?
Somewhere there's a guy randomly surfing, who comes across this site and sees a picture of himself from ten years ago, all handlebar mustache and pasty skin. His shoulders slump and he throws his hands up and in desperation says, "Aww come on! How did this site get my picture now?"
posted by Pastabagel at 12:46 PM on March 13, 2008 [3 favorites]
Somewhere there's a guy randomly surfing, who comes across this site and sees a picture of himself from ten years ago, all handlebar mustache and pasty skin. His shoulders slump and he throws his hands up and in desperation says, "Aww come on! How did this site get my picture now?"
posted by Pastabagel at 12:46 PM on March 13, 2008 [3 favorites]
By the way, in case anyone gets to the end of this site and needs a little more insight into the dapper styling of the modern American male, look no further - MulletJunky.com.
posted by Pastabagel at 12:53 PM on March 13, 2008
posted by Pastabagel at 12:53 PM on March 13, 2008
This thread is great. Several mefites outing themselves as shallow fashionistas. Awesome. It's almost like having a normal prejudice, but there's an extra level of sadness to it when you consider the roots of it and how miserable these people must be in their day to day lives to think about shit like this.
posted by slimepuppy at 12:56 PM on March 13, 2008
posted by slimepuppy at 12:56 PM on March 13, 2008
Several mefites outing themselves as shallow fashionistas.
I think it's important to note that, while what you say is true, it is not necessary to be a fashionista of any type or depth to be simultaneously amused and appalled by people wearing sandals with socks.
I mean, they're sandals for fuck's sake. With socks.
posted by dersins at 1:03 PM on March 13, 2008
I think it's important to note that, while what you say is true, it is not necessary to be a fashionista of any type or depth to be simultaneously amused and appalled by people wearing sandals with socks.
I mean, they're sandals for fuck's sake. With socks.
posted by dersins at 1:03 PM on March 13, 2008
I don't think there is anything "wrong" with wearing socks and sandals, but I'd be mad at myself if I was out like that and stepped in a minor puddle and I had to fucking squish around for the rest of the day, a wet sock is a terrible thing. Also, it looks a little weird, just from a design/outfit perspective, but I think people should dress however they like, with the exception that they need to wear at least a loin cloth/speedo when they are going to be doing any sitting down in public situations so that they aren't going to be getting their ass all over everything. I have been known on a wicked dry summer day to wear shower slides, white socks pulled up high and long shorts for a sort of urban scumbag/cholo effect while I smoke cigarettes and drink barcardi out of a styrofoam cup on my stoop, so who am I to judge anyway?
posted by Divine_Wino at 1:30 PM on March 13, 2008
posted by Divine_Wino at 1:30 PM on March 13, 2008
Not caring what you look like at all up to the point of looking totally different from the rest of the population takes nearly the same amount of effort as caring enough to fit in.
So true.
The other (hopefully last) point is that cheaply/shoddily made "nice looking" clothes/shoes(might still be expensive to buy though) tend to be ill fitting and very uncomfortable. I think a lot of people get fed up with this and retreat to their "comfy" but ugly clothes/shoes where as if they could buy quality "nice" and well fitting clothes/shoes, they'd find the comfort level much higher.
I am finding this to be so true, as well. Like I said before, shoes are my fashion kryptonite, and I still have to go into Payless any time I walk by, and I often buy a pair of shoes that turn out to be cheap feet shredders. Working on not doing that, and spending that money on nice shoes that won't totally tear up my feet.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 1:59 PM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
So true.
The other (hopefully last) point is that cheaply/shoddily made "nice looking" clothes/shoes(might still be expensive to buy though) tend to be ill fitting and very uncomfortable. I think a lot of people get fed up with this and retreat to their "comfy" but ugly clothes/shoes where as if they could buy quality "nice" and well fitting clothes/shoes, they'd find the comfort level much higher.
I am finding this to be so true, as well. Like I said before, shoes are my fashion kryptonite, and I still have to go into Payless any time I walk by, and I often buy a pair of shoes that turn out to be cheap feet shredders. Working on not doing that, and spending that money on nice shoes that won't totally tear up my feet.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 1:59 PM on March 13, 2008 [1 favorite]
If you're shallow enough to be that concerned about what I'm wearing on my feet, I guess I don't particularly care what you think.
posted by Dave Faris at 2:15 PM on March 13, 2008
posted by Dave Faris at 2:15 PM on March 13, 2008
I find that a bright pair of argyles in my Tevas so enrages the general public, that most forget to make mention of my stinky cigars, sweat stained Panama and au naturel butt crack display. Had to tailor 'em myself, but the Bermuda shorts I altered to get a waistband up under my armpits in front, and 2 inches of hairy butt crack in back, with a Velcro cigar pocket on the outside of each leg, have totally been the foundation on my Florida manrobe. The rusting Dittohead and McCain 2000 buttons, American flag and "Support Our Police" shoulder patches, along with the hat mounted fishing lures and coontail flair items I change for seasonal effect, are just added insult. But none of this really works without socks under my sandals to pull the ensemble together.
The slightly sick, gobsmacked look on speechless hipster faces, particularly as enter/exit my pickup truck?
Priceless.
posted by paulsc at 3:25 PM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
The slightly sick, gobsmacked look on speechless hipster faces, particularly as enter/exit my pickup truck?
Priceless.
posted by paulsc at 3:25 PM on March 13, 2008 [2 favorites]
Oh. You Mefites crack me up. A huge portion of the people in this thread so offended about being judge by others over what they wear have no problem judging people by the music they listen to or the books they like. Pull the other one Metafilter. Pull it HARD!
posted by tkchrist at 3:33 PM on March 13, 2008
posted by tkchrist at 3:33 PM on March 13, 2008
Hm. Reading through... how did "I wear socks with my sandals" become, "I don't care how I look"? Does pulling on loafers take more effort than pulling on sandals? If you go through those pictures, there enough examples of people who look quite civilized. You can wear such a combination and present yourself well, just as you can wear as suit and tie and look like a slob.
This thread is reminding me of the AskMe question about mixing patterns in which several people advised the the asker not to even try. Honestly, no one's ever dashing without a dash of daring.
posted by zennie at 3:52 PM on March 13, 2008
This thread is reminding me of the AskMe question about mixing patterns in which several people advised the the asker not to even try. Honestly, no one's ever dashing without a dash of daring.
posted by zennie at 3:52 PM on March 13, 2008
I can get off a plane in Berlin and not feel like a complete bum if I want to head immediately out on the town, in spite of having slept in my clothes.
But did the girl next to you look like Axl Rose?
posted by bwg at 3:58 PM on March 13, 2008
But did the girl next to you look like Axl Rose?
posted by bwg at 3:58 PM on March 13, 2008
Gentlemen, if your feet sweat so badly that you cannot wear shoes, consider a trip to the doctor: you may have a bacterial infection.
And if you find that your feet get grubby and sweaty after a day in sandals, you might try washing them.
posted by jrochest at 4:24 PM on March 13, 2008
And if you find that your feet get grubby and sweaty after a day in sandals, you might try washing them.
posted by jrochest at 4:24 PM on March 13, 2008
And I'm not so sure about this being purely a UK / Pacific NW thing. Only a hunch, but I'm thinking a lot of Germans and Dutch in these pics.
Yep, Germans for sure.
Next up: suspenders, belts, and dudes!
Suspenders, as in garters?
posted by ersatz at 5:37 PM on March 13, 2008
Yep, Germans for sure.
Next up: suspenders, belts, and dudes!
Suspenders, as in garters?
posted by ersatz at 5:37 PM on March 13, 2008
Fuck em'...It's your choice man. You rock what you want but - please give me the same respect.
posted by winks007 at 5:50 PM on March 13, 2008
posted by winks007 at 5:50 PM on March 13, 2008
This post was a much-needed dose of silly.
Socks and sandals, while never being a bona fide great idea, can at least not detract from a guy's attractiveness. It's all about the totality. Case in point, Christ, what an asshole's link. Cute, rumpled boy next door in jeans and a t-shirt who's probably just come over to your backyard for a minute to shyly yet eagerly ask you if you want to go to a friend's party with him tomorrow night? Like you'd say no.
posted by orange swan at 7:13 PM on March 13, 2008
Socks and sandals, while never being a bona fide great idea, can at least not detract from a guy's attractiveness. It's all about the totality. Case in point, Christ, what an asshole's link. Cute, rumpled boy next door in jeans and a t-shirt who's probably just come over to your backyard for a minute to shyly yet eagerly ask you if you want to go to a friend's party with him tomorrow night? Like you'd say no.
posted by orange swan at 7:13 PM on March 13, 2008
Wow, seems like there is a lot of confusion about what is acceptable.
I wear socks with sandals, in the time just before or just after the season when it is warm enough to wear sandals only. And if I'm doing it, you know it's 100% halal. Next time anyone gives you grief, you tell them that Meatbomb says it's OK.
So it is written, so it shall be done.
posted by Meatbomb at 7:26 PM on March 13, 2008
I wear socks with sandals, in the time just before or just after the season when it is warm enough to wear sandals only. And if I'm doing it, you know it's 100% halal. Next time anyone gives you grief, you tell them that Meatbomb says it's OK.
So it is written, so it shall be done.
posted by Meatbomb at 7:26 PM on March 13, 2008
I dress poorly because I'm ugly regardless, and it's cheaper. I sure don't wear socks and sandals, though.
posted by Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America at 7:30 PM on March 13, 2008
posted by Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America at 7:30 PM on March 13, 2008
Noid-hugger dude with the orange socks can wear whatever he wants.
posted by owhydididoit at 10:48 PM on March 13, 2008
posted by owhydididoit at 10:48 PM on March 13, 2008
I find that a bright pair of argyles in my Tevas so enrages the general public, that most forget to make mention of my stinky cigars, sweat stained Panama and au naturel butt crack display. Had to tailor 'em myself, but the Bermuda shorts I altered to get a waistband up under my armpits in front, and 2 inches of hairy butt crack in back, with a Velcro cigar pocket on the outside of each leg, have totally been the foundation on my Florida manrobe. The rusting Dittohead and McCain 2000 buttons, American flag and "Support Our Police" shoulder patches, along with the hat mounted fishing lures and coontail flair items I change for seasonal effect, are just added insult. But none of this really works without socks under my sandals to pull the ensemble together.
Wait, so I'm not alone?
posted by From Bklyn at 1:26 AM on March 14, 2008
Wait, so I'm not alone?
posted by From Bklyn at 1:26 AM on March 14, 2008
Listen to Meatbomb, dude knows from footwear.
posted by Divine_Wino at 9:52 AM on March 14, 2008
posted by Divine_Wino at 9:52 AM on March 14, 2008
Then, at the end of the day, judgemental jackasses wonder why they don't get very nice tips.
Yah but you've already received crappy service that took longer. Unless you tip very very generously tipping has minimal effect on your service experience when you are there infrequently but not wearing socks and sandals might. There are also lots of service places that don't accept tips. Like the post office.
posted by captaincrouton at 11:34 AM on March 14, 2008
Yah but you've already received crappy service that took longer. Unless you tip very very generously tipping has minimal effect on your service experience when you are there infrequently but not wearing socks and sandals might. There are also lots of service places that don't accept tips. Like the post office.
posted by captaincrouton at 11:34 AM on March 14, 2008
For instance on air planes. It's disgusting that people wear shorts and tank tops in cramped flights where people are in close contact for hours.
Ok - next, flight I will drip sweat all over you - or slowly fill up the aisle with stench over the course of 5-6 hours. Betchya you'd be all smarmy in a post about smelly people, wouldn't you? It's bad enough one has to be tortured every step of the way onto the plane, strapped to a seat that is already cramped - now one needs to be "fashionable"?
Ah.... fashionistas. The fact that you are soooo offended by how someone else chooses to dress, what exactly does that say about you? Shallow.
This obsession of comfort wear is no less driven by mass media and consumerism than higher styled fashions
No it's not.
I have more important/enjoyable things to think about than carefully choosing what to wear.
As long as I am not too cold or too hot, I could really care less if I offend your eyes. I did not see you opening your wallet to pay for my clothing choices.
I'll give you a line from a book (10p to the first response with source/author):
"My body is the station wagon I drive my brain around in".
Oh - BTW - I find men who wear socks & sandals both shocking and amusing - but then again, I'm allowed to - I'm part of the club.
posted by jkaczor at 3:10 PM on March 14, 2008
Ok - next, flight I will drip sweat all over you - or slowly fill up the aisle with stench over the course of 5-6 hours. Betchya you'd be all smarmy in a post about smelly people, wouldn't you? It's bad enough one has to be tortured every step of the way onto the plane, strapped to a seat that is already cramped - now one needs to be "fashionable"?
Ah.... fashionistas. The fact that you are soooo offended by how someone else chooses to dress, what exactly does that say about you? Shallow.
This obsession of comfort wear is no less driven by mass media and consumerism than higher styled fashions
No it's not.
I have more important/enjoyable things to think about than carefully choosing what to wear.
As long as I am not too cold or too hot, I could really care less if I offend your eyes. I did not see you opening your wallet to pay for my clothing choices.
I'll give you a line from a book (10p to the first response with source/author):
"My body is the station wagon I drive my brain around in".
Oh - BTW - I find men who wear socks & sandals both shocking and amusing - but then again, I'm allowed to - I'm part of the club.
posted by jkaczor at 3:10 PM on March 14, 2008
microserfs. "I feel like my body is a station wagon in which I drive my brain around." No dangling participles for Coupland, nosiree!
posted by Dave Faris at 3:17 PM on March 14, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Dave Faris at 3:17 PM on March 14, 2008 [1 favorite]
I only started wearing socks with sandals when I found out it was considered outre*. Pretty comfy.
*yeah this is at least five years old.
posted by telstar at 5:12 PM on March 14, 2008
*yeah this is at least five years old.
posted by telstar at 5:12 PM on March 14, 2008
...uh. crap. split infinitive.
posted by Dave Faris at 3:41 AM on March 15, 2008
posted by Dave Faris at 3:41 AM on March 15, 2008
I can get even smaller than Dave Faris!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:33 AM on March 15, 2008
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:33 AM on March 15, 2008
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