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May 25, 2009 7:01 AM   Subscribe

Pop-sci author Mary Roach shares 10 entertaining facts about the orgasm.
posted by dgaicun (57 comments total) 15 users marked this as a favorite


 
If there are only 10, would someone who doesn't mind watching the video type a couple here?
posted by grouse at 7:11 AM on May 25, 2009 [3 favorites]


1. They can cure hiccups
2. You can have them when you are dead

although she did not say if an orgasm can cure hiccups in a dead person.... we should try that here...

does that help, grouse?
posted by HuronBob at 7:20 AM on May 25, 2009 [1 favorite]


11. they make for boring lectures
posted by litleozy at 7:21 AM on May 25, 2009 [2 favorites]


I'm with you guys: Will someone please summarize so that we don't have to listen to an entire annoying TED talk.
posted by Faze at 7:25 AM on May 25, 2009


We can divide up the work. I listened to the two at the beginning:

1. Fetuses might be able to have them
2. Genitals aren't necessary
posted by grouse at 7:27 AM on May 25, 2009


I've stopped being surprised when people don't read the links, but now we don't watch the clips, either?
posted by Houstonian at 7:29 AM on May 25, 2009 [2 favorites]


3. Sharks can't have orgasms because they will stop swimming and die.
posted by orme at 7:30 AM on May 25, 2009 [2 favorites]


All 10 listed here at DigitalCitizen.ca. Hi, welcome to Reddit.

1 Male masturbation starts in utero.That’s quite the early start! Guys, it seems, were born masturbators! Mary provides ultrasound picture from moving ultrasounds that show the motion so it’s not like it was a random placement of the hands.

2 Lack of genitals needed for orgasm (from everyday actions, orgasms experienced by paralyzed people, etc.). Make no doubt about it, folks. The brain is the biggest sex organ we’ve got, by far! Its adaptability to everything in life never ceases to amaze me. Paralyzed people have orgasms in the area just above from where they are paralyzed. That’s adaptability!

3 You can have orgasms when you’re dead, and have them induced. There’s a thought to include in your last wishes!

4 Orgasm can cause bad breath in women. Mary talks about women’s breath here, and I don’t think she’s talking about it from ingestion of seminal fluid. The bad breath seems to be just a bodily reaction stemming from orgasm in women. Mary didn’t exactly make this clear in her talk. She cited Dutch physician and gynecologist Theodoor Hendrik van de Velde, who was a self-professed “semen connoisseur” from being a “semen sniffer”, but talks about bad breath from intercourse, not oral sex. Van de Velde and his research, by the way, stemmed from the 1920s, not anything recent. However, take heart, ladies, the bad breath seems only for an hour after sexual intercourse. So just stick around and talk to your lover for a while. Hey, maybe evolution knew a thing or two about this stuff since it seems to be a common habit. They should be able to tolerate you, although that said, maybe that’s why men don’t like talking after sex. So if you can’t make conversation for an hour or so after sex, avoid people for an hour… though I don’t think Mary is suggesting the bad breath is that bad.

5 Orgasms can cure the hiccups. Research carefully recommends that only “unattached hiccuppers” try this. That’s quite funny, the demographics suggested, as Mary says, so the research can be “proper”. Those not “unattached” should find another solution, but was not told of what by Mary. Of course, in this day and age, though, anybody and everybody should just go for it. Forget breathing into a paper bag or holding your breath. Just get yourself to orgasm somehow. And if it’s during class or something like that, just tell them you’ve got the hiccups and were trying to cure it, citing this research!

6 Doctors once prescribed orgasms in women for fertility. The idea that orgasm contraction movements caused an “upsuck” effect to help semen get to the egg and fertilize it. The doctors could not “prescribe” an orgasm, of course, so they did the closest thing, which was to recommend men devote more effort to pleasing their women. Turns out, this upsuck theory is a myth. It was destroyed in the 1950s, by the Masters & Johnson research team of William Masters and Virginia E. Johnson, through an experiment with “artificial semen”. Yeah, think about that human dynamic in the 1950s, a guy and gal researching human sexuality! Anyway, there are at least three “recipes” for artificial semen in the literature, Mary points out, with yields measured by number of ejaculates. On this formerly given doctor prescription of an orgasm, I think most women would agree with me it is a myth that hardly needed to be destroyed given all the jokes about sex taking 2 minutes due to the male’s inability to prolong not only intercourse, but the entire sexual experience cycle. On the male side of fertility improvement, sperm in men which sit around for 1 week or more are less effective at getting to the egg to fertilize it. The conclusion drawn from this research was that might be why men have evolved to masturbate so often. It’s an evolutionary thing, guys! So as Mary says, “now you have an evolutionary excuse”! To the contrary, though, if you’re against using contraceptives, just have a little patience, practice a little abstinence for at least one week between intercourse, and you’ll improve your odds. You can screw the Catholic Church and its total abstinence advice! As usual, they exaggerate everything, including how few pedophiles are in their priesthood!

7 The “upsuck” theory works for increasing fertility in pigs and is practiced by Danish farmers. The Danish National Committee for Pig Production actually has a DVD on five points of how farmers should sexually stimulate sows (female pigs) while s/he artificially inseminate her, to get about a 6% fertility rate increase. Man, I love the Danes on all their open-mindedness, something I have experience with as a regulatory analyst in reviewing their many regulatory methods and systems, which has nothing to do with this. Mary has a copy of said DVD, shows it and, well, let’s just say if you thought your job was bad, you should see this! The guy in it was shown to have a wedding ring before hand to demonstrate it was OK, and that this was just part of his job, not some freakish fetish. For farmers who may not be able to do this, they have sow vibrators you can buy to help with the process. I guess that 6% increase in artificial insemination fertility rate must be worth a lot!

8 Female animals are having more fun than you think. Pigs, like dogs, express pains and ecstacy in the upper half of their faces, especially with the ears. This is unlike most primates that use their mouths instead. Just a little something for you dog lovers. However, some animals, like female macac monkeys, show the same expression of ecstacy when another female is mounting them. You draw your conclusions.

9 Studying human orgasm in a lab is not easy. A little verbal description of some of the obstacles and machinery used to study human sexuality, especially for measuring response. The examples used were from the 1950s research done by Masters & Johnson. It’d make some gasp today, never mind in the 1950s. Someone was having a very taboo lab, to say the least.

10 But it (#9) sure is entertaining. Story of how one Dr Alfred Kinsey gathered 300 men in the 1940s, gave them measuring tapes to measure the average distance traveled by an ejaculate of semen, with records on film as data. Sorry ladies, a guy beat you to it long ago, though some kids could still do it for a high school science fair experiment with his buddies! Go ahead, I dare you! Anyway, there was an easily understandable myth that this force increased the rate of fertility. This would be similar to how if you can jump farther off your podium in a swimming race, you can cut down the distance you’d need to swim in the water. This would, presumably, cut down the time it’d take you to get to your destination, as well as increase the total distance you would swim before you’d die out, even if not by much. For purposes of distances in the fertilization swim, it’d might be like a 15m race whereby the leap off the podium could have a significant factor. For the record, the longest distance from the trials had an ejaculate distance of almost 8 feet (unnamed subject for confidentiality reasons)! Most subjects only had their ejaculate squirt out, though, so if you’re a guy who can’t, or your guy can’t, do the porn “money shot” thing, then that’s just normal, not dysfunctional. Of course, given all the male fertility drugs out there, you’d think getting the damn thing out of the cannon in the first place is exceptional, never mind how far it might go!
posted by cashman at 7:32 AM on May 25, 2009 [14 favorites]


I've stopped being surprised when people don't read the links, but now we don't watch the clips, either?

I'm willing to bet that people are more willing to read the link than watch the same information in a video clip. When you add together the people who are listening to music/audiobooks, the people who are in a space where they can't have audio going, those who don't have time to listen to a speech when they can read the transcript faster, and the default written-word-love on Mefi, I don't see how it could be different.
posted by Lemurrhea at 7:41 AM on May 25, 2009 [16 favorites]


FWIW, I enjoyed "Stiff" much more than "Bonk". No question Roach is an entertaining writer, with a clever, lively voice. But in "Stiff" it comes across much more naturally, and the exploration of the topic feels driven by real curiosity. The latter book feels a bit like a kid who's knows she's funny and is now showing off.
posted by CheeseDigestsAll at 7:45 AM on May 25, 2009 [1 favorite]


That is a 17 min video. It took me less than sixty seconds to skim cashman's comment. So, yeah, reading rather than watching the video is kinda a no-brainer.
posted by grouse at 7:45 AM on May 25, 2009 [3 favorites]


What Lemurrhea said.
posted by mediareport at 7:47 AM on May 25, 2009


I noticed the similarity between the smells of semen and blooming chestnut trees that she mentioned, in high school. For quite some time I couldn't figure out where that startling smell was coming from! The is the first place I've ever come across a mention of it.
posted by Mei's lost sandal at 8:05 AM on May 25, 2009 [1 favorite]


Well, this is one way of finding out who can and can't deal with delayed gratification.

I admit, I played hooky from work to watch the whole thing. And I'm watching it again right now, because I can.

And I shall feel bitterly, bitterly envious every time I brush my teeth or eat a pork chop from now on.
posted by rosebuddy at 8:07 AM on May 25, 2009 [2 favorites]


Watching it made for entertainment. The talk is warm, light and funny. Really, posting a comment in a thread of a video clip you're not willing to watch? Waste of energy much?
posted by merocet at 8:14 AM on May 25, 2009


#11: There goes another novel
posted by KokuRyu at 8:17 AM on May 25, 2009


Sperm trees (which I found when I was trying to find the classic Straight Dope entry on this. Sad how that site/series-of-books has declined over the years)
posted by DU at 8:19 AM on May 25, 2009


Hmm, my bad. The 10 facts aren't really the point. I should have presented the link as a light, amusing, (mildly naughty) 20 minute TED talk on the orgasm.

The point is really just enjoying a fun lecture. I know that's not for everyone, so improved framing probably could have prevented the JUST LIST THE FACTS ALREADY reaction from some.
posted by dgaicun at 8:40 AM on May 25, 2009 [2 favorites]


If you don't watch the video, you're missing something special at minute 11:23.
posted by whimsicalnymph at 8:41 AM on May 25, 2009


FWIW, I enjoyed "Stiff" much more than "Bonk". No question Roach is an entertaining writer, with a clever, lively voice. But in "Stiff" it comes across much more naturally, and the exploration of the topic feels driven by real curiosity. The latter book feels a bit like a kid who's knows she's funny and is now showing off.

I'm reading Bonk at the moment, and I'm not quite sure I'd agree, but I'd agree that Stiff was better. Anyone in the slightest bit morbid should really read Stiff.
posted by Artw at 8:45 AM on May 25, 2009


The point is really just enjoying a fun lecture. I know that's not for everyone, so improved framing probably could have prevented the JUST LIST THE FACTS ALREADY reaction from some.

OMG SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A LIST! MUST COMPLAIN THAT NUMBER 4 SHOULD BE AT NUMBER 1 AND THAT PERSONAL FAVORITE Y HAS NOT BEEN LISTED AT ALL!
posted by Artw at 8:46 AM on May 25, 2009


That is a 17 min video. It took me less than sixty seconds to skim cashman's comment. So, yeah, reading rather than watching the video is kinda a no-brainer.

Seventeen minutes?! Christ, do you realize how many Top Ten Reasons... articles on Cracked.com I can pound through in 17 minutes? Hell, I could probably get a few tweets in while I'm at it.

Yes, if you just skim a summary you're missing QUITE a bit. Namely a man manually stimulating a female pig to orgasm.
posted by alidarbac at 8:53 AM on May 25, 2009 [1 favorite]


whimsicalnymph: Holy hell, you're right. I will now watch the entire video. That was amazing.
posted by nosila at 8:54 AM on May 25, 2009


I haven't laughed out loud at a YouTube clip in well over a year until seeing the pig insemination video.
posted by eustacescrubb at 8:57 AM on May 25, 2009


Stiff was excellent. I read Spook after that, and I don't know if it was written before Stiff or what, but it wasn't nearly as entertaining. I'm looking forward to Bonk.

I'm always looking forward to Bonk. That goes without saying.
posted by emelenjr at 9:04 AM on May 25, 2009 [2 favorites]


That was pretty amusing. Sure, a lot of it was familiar to those of us who've read Bonk, but the multimedia aspect was definitely worth it. (I'm chuckling at the thought of skipping to the 12-minute mark and showing to people with no explanation.)

As far as "annoying" and "boring"...wow, she may not be as completely confident a speaker as she is a writer, but it's not like she's in Bill Bryson territory.
posted by kittyprecious at 9:18 AM on May 25, 2009


Would this be the technology, engineering or design aspect of TED?
posted by srboisvert at 9:19 AM on May 25, 2009 [1 favorite]


I enjoyed this one. She giggled nervously a lot, but I found that kind of endearing. Her commentary during the pig video was especially humorous.
posted by futureisunwritten at 9:24 AM on May 25, 2009


Moneyshot: Cheese crumbs laid before a pair of copulating rats will distract the female, but not the male.
posted by metastability at 9:31 AM on May 25, 2009


Sexy-smelling trees, Previously on AskMe...
posted by rokusan at 9:46 AM on May 25, 2009


Or, like, as DU posted above. Doh.
posted by rokusan at 9:47 AM on May 25, 2009


Submitting "TED Talks" to Things White People Like.
posted by boo_radley at 9:55 AM on May 25, 2009 [6 favorites]


God, how could someone make a talk about orgasm so boring, especially the writer of Stiff?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 10:00 AM on May 25, 2009


If I'd paid $6,000 to attend TED, I'd be really annoyed at this lecture, until I saw the pig insemination video.

It's not what the guy does, it's the familiarity with which he does it.
posted by fatbird at 10:12 AM on May 25, 2009


here is a link to the original video @ ted which also has downloads available. that is where i came by this talk before.
posted by the aloha at 10:14 AM on May 25, 2009


"That is a 17 min video. It took me less than sixty seconds to skim cashman's comment. So, yeah, reading rather than watching the video is kinda a no-brainer."

That's how I was able to consume "War and Peace", "The Grapes of Wrath" and "" and "Wuthering Heights" in a single afternoon.
posted by Mitheral at 10:24 AM on May 25, 2009


A whole afternoon? Who has that kind of time? I prefer War and Peace in two sentences, The Grapes of Wrath in four, and Wuthering Heights in five.
posted by jedicus at 10:37 AM on May 25, 2009 [4 favorites]


Watching the video was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life, and there's no way the comments could have done justice.

I now know more about female pig anatomy than I ever wanted.

Seriously, not only is it waste of time to comment in a video thread saying "I don't want to watch this, could someone sum up?" but this video was totally worth watching and had content that can't at all be summed up in text.

It would have been better if the link had included a hint to graphic pig pr0n.
posted by grapefruitmoon at 10:42 AM on May 25, 2009


not only is it waste of time to comment in a video thread saying "I don't want to watch this, could someone sum up?"

I disagree, it saved me approximately 16 minutes.
posted by grouse at 10:44 AM on May 25, 2009


jedicus: I laughed at your links far more (which is at all) then this video. Then I cringed as I have not read any of the books listed. But seriously, who has that kind of time.
posted by uni verse at 11:14 AM on May 25, 2009


If you're complaining about watching the video instead of watching it, you're not having fun. And orgasms are supposed to be fun.
posted by OverlappingElvis at 11:37 AM on May 25, 2009


Like dancing about architecture.
posted by Pronoiac at 12:05 PM on May 25, 2009


metafliter: overthinking an orgasm.
posted by From Bklyn at 12:09 PM on May 25, 2009 [1 favorite]


"Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it."
posted by zippy at 12:32 PM on May 25, 2009


I don't care if you can skim over the video with bullet points 1-10, you're not getting the complete effect until you SEE the farmer skim his fingers across the pig nipples. That caused my brain to have to reboot.
posted by Mcable at 1:06 PM on May 25, 2009


I found it hard to pay attention to the subject matter, due to her irritating if-Butthead-was-female nervous chuckle. "Huh-huh-huh-huh. Pig clitoris."
posted by argh at 1:11 PM on May 25, 2009


Pig fondling is serious business.
posted by Pronoiac at 1:36 PM on May 25, 2009 [1 favorite]


This has to be one of the lousiest comments threads on Metafilter, which is a pity, because it's actually kind of a neat and interesting video.
posted by Artw at 2:48 PM on May 25, 2009


The next time I eat bacon, I'll now of the clinical dutchman in a clean suit straddling the sow it came from, jamming his large dutch hand into her piggie vagina, manually stimulating the clitoris like an astronaut maneuvering the Canada Arm with a thumbstick, slapping her ass and then plucking at her cracked and swollen teats like a harp player mindlessly working his way through greensleeves.
posted by boo_radley at 2:54 PM on May 25, 2009 [5 favorites]


The latter book feels a bit like a kid who's knows she's funny and is now showing off.

My feeling exactly. This was maybe tolerable in Stiff where there's a sort of natural reaction to dead people that her humor sort of helps with. In Bonk she just seemed like either she was uncomfortable and making jokes (doesn't seem borne out by this talk) or her publishers told her "do more of that funny stuff..." or her sense of humor doesn't jibe with mine very well. I felt that it took her general approach of "let's talk about this semi-taboo subject" and sort of messed it up by adding all the "tee hee" stuff to it. Why not just talk about sex, which is interesting enough on its own? I actually did not finish Bonk and I can't think of another book I haven't finished in years.
posted by jessamyn at 3:56 PM on May 25, 2009


...jamming his large dutch hand into her piggie vagina...slapping her ass and then plucking at her cracked and swollen teats like a harp player mindlessly working his way through greensleeves.

Apart from the fact that it was Denmark, I think you have a bright future in erotica.
posted by Sova at 4:37 PM on May 25, 2009 [3 favorites]


I'm willing to bet that people are more willing to read the link than watch the same information in a video clip.

Yep, I was there. I don't know why I didn't notice it was YT. For some reason, I had just assumed it was print, and I groaned at the thought of -- nearly twenty minutes! -- of sex talk, which tends to be either boring or obnoxious in presentation (or both). I would gladly have clicked on even ten links for the ten "interesting" things.

And then I watched the first minute and was hooked. Genuinely fascinating info; charming presentation. Excellent.

Also: the Lazarus effect? Zowie.
posted by Durn Bronzefist at 6:10 PM on May 25, 2009


Oh, is it personal disclosure time on the blue? That (only) "thinking yourself to orgasm" thing? Yeah, I've done that. But I'm pretty sure off the illicit substance I was on I'm not able to do it. However, on? Like a light switch.

I'd forgotten all about that.
posted by Durn Bronzefist at 7:41 PM on May 25, 2009


Yeah, I want my 17 minutes back.

I watched because TED videos are frequently awesome, but this wasn't quite one of them.
posted by intermod at 7:45 PM on May 25, 2009


69. One side-effect of THC and CBDs is multiple orgasms — yes, men, too.

That's not only a strange sex fact, it's an argument for and against decriminalization.
posted by five fresh fish at 8:07 PM on May 25, 2009


Yeah, it wasn't the best TED talk ever but I still learned a thing or two. Thanks.
posted by Devils Slide at 8:45 PM on May 25, 2009


I enjoyed this one. She giggled nervously a lot, but I found that kind of endearing.
As an (ex-) speech and debate coach, I found it difficult to watch in spots-- I wanted so much to help her improve her delivery. She has a lot of potential as a speaker because her enthusiasm is clearly there, but unfortunately she performs at about a high school level. Just like sentence structure and word choice can either clarify or obfuscate the written word, body language and vocalization can electrify or benumb the audience. I expect many of you who dismissed the speech as boring would have been more enthralled had she been a better speaker.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 7:14 AM on May 26, 2009


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