September 15, 2001

I feel represented.

I feel represented. I live in the East Bay, and I cannot believe my feelings towards all this have been represented in congress. Does anyone else feel that petitioning their rep's may be a good idea? I understand the need for retribution, but, really, is it worth more innocent death? We have carried out search and destroy missions before with zero civilian casualty. I'm sorry to not understand "death to all", I just think that this is WAY more delicate.
posted by tenseone at 11:48 PM PST - 5 comments

Are we ready? Are we able?

Are we ready? Are we able? Is anyone else offended by this question? This article presents a fairly balanced view. My question would be, do we have any choice but to be ready militarily, politically and diplomatically? What is the alternative? Was this question asked so frequently in the days following Pearl Harbor?
posted by dewelch at 11:30 PM PST - 6 comments

Sorry, I don't have a link for this post, but in light of the tragedy, I was thinking of the Tower of Bable story from the Bible. As I understand the story, man was trying to build a tower to reach God, but God made sure man didn't succeed.

For those of you who do (or don't) believe in God, do you think there is a message in all this sadness?
posted by Rastafari at 11:27 PM PST - 17 comments

Can we at least agree to disagree that Multiculturism has gotten us somewhere?

Can we at least agree to disagree that Multiculturism has gotten us somewhere? Many Arab Americans are safer because of it. Is it possible that age-old liberal propaganda has insured at least partially, a much more measured response from the US government, as even conservative leaders seek to include Muslim voice in their sermons of American togetherness? Are we growing up as a society as a result of this cataclysm? (Warning: Link to antithesis of my point--which is exactly the point as it were)
posted by crasspastor at 10:58 PM PST - 10 comments

The Taliban insists Bin Laden is innocent.

The Taliban insists Bin Laden is innocent. Let's just pretend for a minute that Bin Laden is not the mastermind behind these most recent attacks. Do you think the U.S. should (try to) take him out anyways to safeguard against future aggression?
posted by catatonic at 10:30 PM PST - 26 comments

Quoted from cnn.com: U.S. intelligence had al-Midhar and Alhamzi under surveillance, and one source confirmed that Al-Midhar was seen on a surveillance tape in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

Quoted from cnn.com: U.S. intelligence had al-Midhar and Alhamzi under surveillance, and one source confirmed that Al-Midhar was seen on a surveillance tape in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Oh no ... as a Malaysian myself, the last thing i wana see is our very own Petronas Twin Towers being levelled into a memorial park! Frankly, we're much too small a country to even cause a ripple in the sea. Or...should I start packing up?
posted by arrowhead at 9:48 PM PST - 2 comments

So tragically wrong...

So tragically wrong... Proof that the FBI didn't have a clue. From a year ago: "Even the American cells of violent Middle East political movements as Hamas and Hezbollah, [then FBI Director Louis] Freeh declared, are devoted exclusively to "fundraising and low-level intelligence gathering." Salon writer Bruce Shapiro even goes so far as to call the National Commission on Terrorism's finding that "The threat from terrorists is so high, the potential for massive casualties is so real, that an independent panel is pushing the government to take immediate, drastic action" as a con job.
posted by theNonsuch at 9:15 PM PST - 18 comments

Interactive map of New York City

Interactive map of New York City compliments of FoxNews. This is great for people like me who have no idea how NYC is laid out. Wow. Can't believe how much of the city doesn't have lights or phones.
posted by ColdChef at 8:27 PM PST - 3 comments

"What was really needed was a single, well-maintained database that everyone could agree to support. Unfortunately, things were destined to get worse, before they got better."

"What was really needed was a single, well-maintained database that everyone could agree to support. Unfortunately, things were destined to get worse, before they got better." A good piece on how and why the grass-roots rush to provide survivor details, though well-spirited, eventually led to confusion and false hopes. (There's a strange parallel with the problems of Napster and its file-sharing kindred.) Can we draw any lessons on how best to use the Web in situations like this?
posted by holgate at 8:00 PM PST - 4 comments

$200 million in gold and silver buried under WTC.

$200 million in gold and silver buried under WTC. Get there first and it's yours! No harm done in picking up a bar of gold. (Via Nando)
posted by HoldenCaulfield at 6:47 PM PST - 31 comments

Tough Times For Pakistan

Tough Times For Pakistan Please read all the articles. These articles explain in detail what has been going on in Pakistan since the attacks on Tuesday.
Once again my country is facing a tough time to make a decision. To succumb to international pressure and help the BIGGEST bully (US) and in return face the wrath of internal bullies. Last time Pakistan helped a US cause, we were left alienated to face the problems of Post-Afghan War era. God Bless Pakistan.
posted by adnanbwp at 6:02 PM PST - 31 comments

Zeldman's

Zeldman's thoughtful writing is always touching in some way. This article and the previous one are especially so.
posted by jackiemcghee at 4:24 PM PST - 0 comments - Post a Comment

Appeasement.

Appeasement. Chamberlain sat at a table with Hitler in 1938 signing a treaty and proclaiming "peace for our time". Shortly after, World War II began. Killing innocent people does not solve the problem, but sitting at a table with your enemy and proclaiming peace (when he just wants to kill more) does no good either.
posted by owillis at 4:22 PM PST - 36 comments

The Stranger does it right

The Stranger does it right Seattle's weekly Stranger paper created a powerful and eloquent cover image for this week's edition. Weekly papers had the challenge of producing an issue on deadline which would not be published until days after Tuesday's events, behind the flood of daily newspaper and TV coverage. How have your independent weeklies handled the coverage?
posted by crunchybird at 4:03 PM PST - 11 comments

Networks, Movies Cutting Images of New York Skyline

Networks, Movies Cutting Images of New York Skyline I don't get it. Sort of like going through your family albums and digitally editing out loved ones who passed away.
posted by kd at 3:58 PM PST - 34 comments

The best offense is a good defense?

The best offense is a good defense? With all the halting of sporting events and the outspokenness of some athletes, Tuesday's tragedy certainly puts our pasttimes in perspective. But this column's perspective sort of irked me, just from statements like this: "When Monday morning comes, let our enemies know that we are coming after them the way the Baltimore Ravens go after a ball carrier." Come on. Should sports have continued this weekend?
posted by crunchybird at 3:57 PM PST - 11 comments

The perfect structure

The perfect structure ‘Responding to his own call for “the perfect structure,” Matta-Clark wrote elliptically, “erase all the buildings for a clear horizon.” To illustrate this “perfect structure,” he sketched twinned skyscrapers... on a horizon line complete with the half-disc of the sun. But the perfect structure – or structures – was not so much the skyscrapers as the condition of their erasure, indicated by the two blunt Xs that violently mark the images of the buildings.’
posted by joeclark at 3:51 PM PST - 6 comments

Another heavy thinker weighs in!

Another heavy thinker weighs in! Next up: Mr. Ed.
posted by prodigal at 3:39 PM PST - 56 comments

Is this the AYBABTU of WTC?

Is this the AYBABTU of WTC? I think it strikes the right measure. What do you think?
posted by Real9 at 3:04 PM PST - 41 comments

A thoughtful and fascinating analysis

A thoughtful and fascinating analysis of the historical backdrop to the current situation. Why did this happen, what circumstances got us into a de facto state of undeclared war with the Islamic world, and what can we realistically do to prevent those circumstances from ever recurring? --Charlie Stross
posted by rushmc at 2:11 PM PST - 15 comments

No escape at the movies.

No escape at the movies. I made the mistake of going to see "Rush Hour 2" yesterday. Now, granted, I knew that there'd be violence, but I thought Jackie Chan violence would be stomachable. How wrong I was. In fact, the very first scene involves the top of a building exploding. And that's repeated throughout the movie. So, for those of you escaping at the movies, what have you been seeing?
posted by adrober at 1:41 PM PST - 57 comments

Missles hit Gaza.

Missles hit Gaza. Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat called it here. "If Sharon goes ahead and cancels [the cease-fire talks], that means he has other plans and we know those other plans -- they involve tanks, shelling and assasinations."
posted by hipstertrash at 1:08 PM PST - 3 comments

The Guardian article

The Guardian article from 'The Editor' section today which talks extensively about this thread. This is a hyperlinked version I've created because it hasn't been posted at The Guardian's own website yet. Hope I'm not breaking any laws.
posted by feelinglistless at 12:47 PM PST - 11 comments

Can someone establish a parallel between this and the recent tragedy?

Can someone establish a parallel between this and the recent tragedy? I don't know how many of you have already seen this, but to me it seemed pretty funny.
posted by HoldenCaulfield at 12:45 PM PST - 5 comments

I hope the intentions of the people publishing websites like this are honorable

I hope the intentions of the people publishing websites like this are honorable but I fear they may not be. In the last hour I have received three email messages soliciting money for 'disaster victims'. Here is one in its entirety (inside as a comment) Call me me crazy, but this sounds like a scam to me. I have no idea who any of these people are, but they have either questionable motives or questionable judgement or both. What causes people to prey on others generosity during such a terrible time?
posted by fbeach at 11:01 AM PST - 13 comments

Teacher beats up student for speaking out against Laden

Teacher beats up student for speaking out against Laden /bin/laden/ has followers everywhere, it seems. wonder when the world will accept the right to free speech. [link via TimepassTown]
posted by arnab at 10:41 AM PST - 21 comments

Keep Rudy on in NYC?

Keep Rudy on in NYC? Anyone heard of a serious effort to keep Rudy as Mayor in NYC? His performance during this crisis is the best argument for the elimination of term limits I've ever seen.
posted by justkurt at 10:37 AM PST - 19 comments

The Rocket Man

The Rocket Man says: "I know I wouldn't get on an American airline unless it had an armed guard." Despite everything, I think it's going to be a long long time before that happens---could airlines really afford that?
posted by adrober at 10:17 AM PST - 24 comments

Understanding Fundamentalism

Understanding Fundamentalism An anthropology professor explores the common threads of fundamentalism ranging from Native American revivalism, Christian fundamentalism, the Islamic Movement, Jewish Orthodoxy and Shinto and how they give rise to vigilante groups such as Operation Rescue, American militias, Hamas and Gush Emunim.
posted by kliuless at 8:58 AM PST - 5 comments

For now, enough volunteers and food

For now, enough volunteers and food This was reiterated in a press conference this morning: "Agencies that had requested new volunteers are now reporting they have sufficient numbers of volunteers to accomplish their work. Agencies that have requested in-kind donations of goods and supplies have likewise received as much material support as they can immediately manage."
posted by metrocake at 8:38 AM PST - 3 comments

Reactions.

Reactions. We won't be making war against our enemies because they are evil and we are good. We will be making war against these people because they are killing Americans and our allies, and we have to make them stop. --Orson Scott Card
posted by rushmc at 8:19 AM PST - 29 comments

Kent's "Remember 9.11,"

Kent's "Remember 9.11," Tim's "Buy stocks on Monday", Peter's "Let us remember" I've never been in a position where I've seen so many spam/meme's born.... I always wondered where those things came from.
posted by christina at 8:11 AM PST - 11 comments

Russia not willing to help?

Russia not willing to help? Meanwhile, Nikolai Kovalyov, the former head of the Russian FSB security service, warned the US that an attack on Afghanistan would fail to capture Osama bin Laden, the alleged mastermind of the atrocities, and would backfire on the US. "In Afghanistan's mountainous terrain it takes a trainload of explosives to destroy three militants," he said. "The chance of hitting bin Laden is zero."
posted by rushmc at 7:52 AM PST - 17 comments

"Let's call this a hyperwar: a world where the ordinary, natural context of societies is no longer peace, but war."

"Let's call this a hyperwar: a world where the ordinary, natural context of societies is no longer peace, but war." Having seen the photograph of Osama bin Laden on the front page of Salon yesterday, I couldn't help thinking of the Two Minutes' Hate from 1984 (Full text here.) With this essay from Libération, does another piece of the Orwellian jigsaw fit into place?
posted by holgate at 6:23 AM PST - 22 comments

They've finally reached an agreement

They've finally reached an agreement that will allow China to become members of the World Trade Organization. I'm not sure I buy the idea that allowing them in will help "bring domestic political liberalization". Although this probably would have made big news a week ago, it was buried in the Reuters Business News today.
posted by elfgirl at 6:22 AM PST - 3 comments

Carnivore and other forms of snooping approved by congress

Carnivore and other forms of snooping approved by congress there has been some references to what this articles deals with but this gives a slightly broader perspectve.
posted by Postroad at 6:15 AM PST - 1 comments

Where's Uncle Dick?

Where's Uncle Dick? Unless I've missed something, Dick Cheney has not shown his face since the tragedy. All I've seen is a CNN scroll stating that he is at Camp David. (more inside)
posted by Optamystic at 5:30 AM PST - 30 comments

Have we entered a

Have we entered a Neil Howe and William Strauss have written a series of books (really, the same book rehashed three times, but who's counting?) on generational cycles. Their theory is that we are due for a "fourth turning" in the first part of the 21st century: a catalyst event that causes an extreme change in public mood, causing us to go through a decade or two of crisis. For example, the 1929 stock market crash was a catalyst, and the Depression and WWII were the time of crisis. Was 9/11 such a catalyst?
posted by litlnemo at 5:25 AM PST - 15 comments

This is a very good article

This is a very good article which does us the service of specifically addressing why it would be "okay" to (basically) assassinate Bin Laden. And you thought we'd just carpet-bomb.
posted by j.edwards at 4:01 AM PST - 11 comments

"I have seen the freest among you wear their freedom as a yoke and a handcuff"

"I have seen the freest among you wear their freedom as a yoke and a handcuff", said Kahlil Gibran's Prophet, "and my heart bled within me; for you can only be free when even the desire of seeking freedom becomes a harness to you, and when you cease to speak of freedom as a goal and a fulfillment. You shall be free indeed when your days are not without a care nor your nights without a want and a grief."
posted by RichLyon at 1:42 AM PST - 8 comments

BUY WAR BONDS!

BUY WAR BONDS! An archive of vintage WWII posters, in case you've got a hankerin' for a little bit of that ol' timey propaganda.
posted by crunchland at 12:06 AM PST - 7 comments

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