"So, here's a broccoli."
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11 Questions about the Dr. Oz crudités video (New York)
Video goes viral: 'That's $20 for crudité!' (MarketWatch)
Everything Wrong with Oz's Crudités (The Takeout)
John Fetterman fundraises off Oz's ad (Newsweek)
Video goes viral: 'That's $20 for crudité!' (MarketWatch)
Everything Wrong with Oz's Crudités (The Takeout)
John Fetterman fundraises off Oz's ad (Newsweek)
I saw that Dr. Oz vid on twitter, and wondered "does he not have any actual humans to provide an assist when talking about stuff like ... um, buying and eating things that a restaurant or servant doesn't prepare?" It just seems like a weirdly bad ad, especially when he's been so besieged by ridicule for other stuff. I would be, like, "Okay, team! Let's be extra careful with this one, and NOT appear egregiously foolish!"
posted by taz at 11:37 AM on August 16, 2022 [8 favorites]
posted by taz at 11:37 AM on August 16, 2022 [8 favorites]
"… asparagus can definitely be eaten raw."
Peeling it helps a lot. Good in salads.
posted by bz at 11:41 AM on August 16, 2022 [1 favorite]
Peeling it helps a lot. Good in salads.
posted by bz at 11:41 AM on August 16, 2022 [1 favorite]
My Lancaster, PA grandma called this a "finger salad" and it never had any freaking asparagus on it. Yes I know it can be eaten raw but c'mon man.
Fresh celery and carrots (from the Amish or the Mennonites at Root's) on ice, add some canned black olives and boom - I'm angsty for it now.
I was trying not to pay attention to this yesterday but my PA roots are indeed pretty mortally offended after having watched the thing. And the "guacamole" situation - my god - this ad is indeed deserving of all the wrath.
posted by rdnnyc at 11:44 AM on August 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
Fresh celery and carrots (from the Amish or the Mennonites at Root's) on ice, add some canned black olives and boom - I'm angsty for it now.
I was trying not to pay attention to this yesterday but my PA roots are indeed pretty mortally offended after having watched the thing. And the "guacamole" situation - my god - this ad is indeed deserving of all the wrath.
posted by rdnnyc at 11:44 AM on August 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
I mean, yea, I've eaten raw asparagus. But if someone served me a veggie tray with it I would think they were messing with me.
posted by zenon at 11:45 AM on August 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
posted by zenon at 11:45 AM on August 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
Thanks to all of this, now I know what crudités are! Next time I throw a party- maybe after universal intranasal covid vaccination- I'll bring out veggie trays and a ridonculous accent en francais, "Donc! Ces sont les crudités! Ou en Anglais, les ‹vegitrés›."
posted by a snickering nuthatch at 11:47 AM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by a snickering nuthatch at 11:47 AM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
Direct link to the
posted by zamboni at 11:51 AM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
Wegnerssticker, which leans heavily on Wegmans trade dress:
Wegners - Let them eat cruditéIf you're extravagant and want premade, Redner's has a vegetable platter for $22.99 (although judging from the URL, it was a
vegetbale platterat some point), while Wegmans has a veggie tray for $18.00.
posted by zamboni at 11:51 AM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
Petty usage note: there is no grocer's apostrophe in Wegmans.
posted by zamboni at 11:55 AM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
posted by zamboni at 11:55 AM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
If I saw asparagus on a veggie tray, I would expect that it had been blanched in boiling water and was crisp but not raw, so I would charge ahead.
One knows what crudites are but just as one would greet guests with "hey, I made some fun retro appetizers - have a baked olive in cheese pastry!" rather than "good evening, would you care for an hors d'oeuvre?, one serves a veggie tray, cut up vegetables or relish, not crudites. One is not a butler in a sitcom, you know.
posted by Frowner at 11:57 AM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
One knows what crudites are but just as one would greet guests with "hey, I made some fun retro appetizers - have a baked olive in cheese pastry!" rather than "good evening, would you care for an hors d'oeuvre?, one serves a veggie tray, cut up vegetables or relish, not crudites. One is not a butler in a sitcom, you know.
posted by Frowner at 11:57 AM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
One is not a butler in a sitcom, you know
One speaks for oneself.
posted by mubba at 12:00 PM on August 16, 2022 [33 favorites]
One speaks for oneself.
posted by mubba at 12:00 PM on August 16, 2022 [33 favorites]
now I know what crudités are!
I like to pronounce it crud-ites, just to annoy the waiter.
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:03 PM on August 16, 2022 [10 favorites]
I like to pronounce it crud-ites, just to annoy the waiter.
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:03 PM on August 16, 2022 [10 favorites]
I have a FB friend who is in Pennsylvania and he posts the best moments of Fetterman revealing Oz to be the carpetbagging know-nothing 1% asshole that he is, which I find delightfully hilarious, but, of course, the carpetbagging know-nothing 1% asshole isn't vying to represent me. I imagine this shit is a lot harder to just laugh at if you live in Pennsylvania and are running the very real risk of having that guy as your Senator.
posted by jacquilynne at 12:04 PM on August 16, 2022 [7 favorites]
posted by jacquilynne at 12:04 PM on August 16, 2022 [7 favorites]
I imagine this shit is a lot harder to just laugh at if you live in Pennsylvania and are running the very real risk of having that guy as your Senator.
I live in Pennsylvania, and trust me, it's fucking hilarious.
Dude is polling in the 30s.
posted by rhymedirective at 12:12 PM on August 16, 2022 [33 favorites]
I live in Pennsylvania, and trust me, it's fucking hilarious.
Dude is polling in the 30s.
posted by rhymedirective at 12:12 PM on August 16, 2022 [33 favorites]
As a Pennsylvanian, it is indeed scary to imagine Oz becoming our senator, which is why it's such a relief (and very, very funny) to see him embarrass himself in ways that wreak havoc on his polls.
posted by Tom Hanks Cannot Be Trusted at 12:18 PM on August 16, 2022 [8 favorites]
posted by Tom Hanks Cannot Be Trusted at 12:18 PM on August 16, 2022 [8 favorites]
It didn't occur to this wanker, after however many years anchoring a TV show, that he could have done another take to get rid of the Wegners/Wegmans gaffe?
He deserves all the point-and-laugh he's getting and then some.
posted by humbug at 12:20 PM on August 16, 2022 [10 favorites]
He deserves all the point-and-laugh he's getting and then some.
posted by humbug at 12:20 PM on August 16, 2022 [10 favorites]
Here in GA we have our own disastrously unqualified Republican running for the senate. Unfortunately he was a star football player for the University of Georgia, which is all many voters here need to know. This race shouldn't even be close but Herschel Walker is within 3 points of the incumbent, Rafael Warnock. But maybe the fact that allegiance to Trump is both necessary and sufficient to be a Republican candidate will hurt the party in upcoming elections.
posted by TedW at 12:24 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
posted by TedW at 12:24 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
Wegners/Wegmans gaffe?
It's more of a Redner's/Wegmans gaffe. Wegner's only exists on Twitter.
I like to pronounce it crud-ites, just to annoy the waiter.
Crudites, Greek god of veggie trays.
posted by zamboni at 12:24 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
It's more of a Redner's/Wegmans gaffe. Wegner's only exists on Twitter.
I like to pronounce it crud-ites, just to annoy the waiter.
Crudites, Greek god of veggie trays.
posted by zamboni at 12:24 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
being incredibly worldly, i know the word crudités from an Enter Shikari song (around 0m50s)
posted by glonous keming at 12:25 PM on August 16, 2022
posted by glonous keming at 12:25 PM on August 16, 2022
Maybe crud-ites are luddites but for vegetables instead of tech.
posted by emelenjr at 12:28 PM on August 16, 2022 [8 favorites]
posted by emelenjr at 12:28 PM on August 16, 2022 [8 favorites]
How do people who are really dumb somehow get doctor's degrees (and then go into politics)?
posted by jenfullmoon at 12:30 PM on August 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
posted by jenfullmoon at 12:30 PM on August 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
the sad thing is that there are folks that this tweet will appeal to, and all they will take away is that this dude was being funny walking around a grocery store, and then blamed joe biden for the high prices. they figure "hey this dude blames joe biden in the same way that i do - i should vote for him".
those same folks see other folks (let's call them "the libs") dissecting his gaffes, and they find it that much more appealing.
posted by rude.boy at 12:37 PM on August 16, 2022
those same folks see other folks (let's call them "the libs") dissecting his gaffes, and they find it that much more appealing.
posted by rude.boy at 12:37 PM on August 16, 2022
Crudites are the snakeoil huckster version of Deadites, which makes me smile thinking of Ash Williams facing off against Deadite Oz afterhours in his current job at Wegners (after S-Mart suffered the same fate as K-Mart against Walmart).
posted by Fiberoptic Zebroid and The Hypnagogic Jerks at 12:42 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by Fiberoptic Zebroid and The Hypnagogic Jerks at 12:42 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
I don't understand why some reporter doesn't just corner him and ask him one or two basic questions that a normal human being would know, but he definitely would not.
"Dr. Oz: about how much is a gallon of milk?"
He doesn't know. He's from Planet Rich Person and he does not know.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:43 PM on August 16, 2022 [1 favorite]
"Dr. Oz: about how much is a gallon of milk?"
He doesn't know. He's from Planet Rich Person and he does not know.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:43 PM on August 16, 2022 [1 favorite]
Also maybe I'm as out of touch as Dr. Oz, but isn't ~$3.99 a pound pretty typical for asparagus out of season? I feel like I only see it lower (going back years) during the peak harvest time.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 12:45 PM on August 16, 2022 [7 favorites]
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 12:45 PM on August 16, 2022 [7 favorites]
I saw this back in April; it was weird then but it's almost weirder to me that it is trending again now. I'm not complaining, dunking on Dr. Oz is better than dunking your raw veggies in ranch dip. (I don't actually like ranch, but I feel like the biggest fail in this whole thing is the guacamole and salsa. There are veggie dips somewhere near that display that make more sense with broccoli and carrots.)
Also, on the topic of crudités vs veggie tray, my family always called them relish trays. Is this weird, or just midwestern?
posted by the primroses were over at 12:47 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
Also, on the topic of crudités vs veggie tray, my family always called them relish trays. Is this weird, or just midwestern?
posted by the primroses were over at 12:47 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
I saw that Dr. Oz vid on twitter, and wondered "does he not have any actual humans to provide an assist when talking about stuff like ... um, buying and eating things that a restaurant or servant doesn't prepare?"
He should have stuck to corn dogs.
posted by Halloween Jack at 12:51 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
Also, on the topic of crudités vs veggie tray, my family always called them relish trays. Is this weird, or just midwestern?
As a midwesterner, I never think of that as an "or" construction tbh
(but yeah "relish trays" is a term here; when I was a kid, I loathed relish--it was like the only food on earth I wouldn't eat--and always approached the "relish tray" with a degree of mistrust, despite clearly seeing that it was cucumbers and radishes.)
posted by We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese at 12:59 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
As a midwesterner, I never think of that as an "or" construction tbh
(but yeah "relish trays" is a term here; when I was a kid, I loathed relish--it was like the only food on earth I wouldn't eat--and always approached the "relish tray" with a degree of mistrust, despite clearly seeing that it was cucumbers and radishes.)
posted by We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese at 12:59 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
How do people who are really dumb somehow get doctor's degrees (and then go into politics)?
People are capable of amazing things when they focus their attention on a narrow field of expertise. What happens is that people label those people as "smart" and a few of them buy into the hype and assume that if they're brilliant surgeons (in Oz's example), they're also brilliant on other fields.
By all accounts, he is actually a great surgeon. He just took that confidence and applied it to other fields (nutrition, general health, being a member of a society) that he has no expertise in.
posted by explosion at 1:00 PM on August 16, 2022 [21 favorites]
People are capable of amazing things when they focus their attention on a narrow field of expertise. What happens is that people label those people as "smart" and a few of them buy into the hype and assume that if they're brilliant surgeons (in Oz's example), they're also brilliant on other fields.
By all accounts, he is actually a great surgeon. He just took that confidence and applied it to other fields (nutrition, general health, being a member of a society) that he has no expertise in.
posted by explosion at 1:00 PM on August 16, 2022 [21 favorites]
Dr. Oz's communications team is either really, really bad at their jobs or really, really hates him.
posted by It's Never Lurgi at 1:00 PM on August 16, 2022 [23 favorites]
posted by It's Never Lurgi at 1:00 PM on August 16, 2022 [23 favorites]
Engineers' Disease applies double to doctors, triple to surgeons, and quadruple to cardiac surgeons. I don't think you can literally hold someone's life in your hands multiple times every day for years with a normal human level of confidence.
posted by saturday_morning at 1:12 PM on August 16, 2022 [25 favorites]
posted by saturday_morning at 1:12 PM on August 16, 2022 [25 favorites]
I hate the bullshit man-of-the-people posturing that politicians have to do instead of just being themselves. However, I do expect minimal competence in posturing, and he falls well short.
Also, after years of Republicans giving Kerry shit for windsurfing or Obama for Grey Poupon, fuck this guy.
posted by kirkaracha at 1:20 PM on August 16, 2022 [16 favorites]
Also, after years of Republicans giving Kerry shit for windsurfing or Obama for Grey Poupon, fuck this guy.
posted by kirkaracha at 1:20 PM on August 16, 2022 [16 favorites]
The most infuriating part of this is, he's not even actually wrong. Food prices are projected to rise 10% this year; compared to 3.5% last year and the year before that; the 20 year historical average is 2.4%.
I mean, he's wrong about "we've got Joe Biden to thank for this", and he's wrong about salsa, and asparagus, and tequila(?!), and he's wrong about the name of the grocery store he's in, and he doesn't know how to read a shelf tag, and he's definitely wrong if he thinks this video makes him seem more relatable or caring.
But he's right that it's a problem.
posted by ook at 1:32 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
I mean, he's wrong about "we've got Joe Biden to thank for this", and he's wrong about salsa, and asparagus, and tequila(?!), and he's wrong about the name of the grocery store he's in, and he doesn't know how to read a shelf tag, and he's definitely wrong if he thinks this video makes him seem more relatable or caring.
But he's right that it's a problem.
posted by ook at 1:32 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
How do people who are really dumb somehow get doctor's degrees
The skills and knowledge you need to develop during a doctoral program, be it MD or PhD, are so narrow that they don't bleed over into any kind of general smartitude. You can be a total total smeghead and complete a doctorate if you're willing to put up with it for long enough.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 1:34 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
The skills and knowledge you need to develop during a doctoral program, be it MD or PhD, are so narrow that they don't bleed over into any kind of general smartitude. You can be a total total smeghead and complete a doctorate if you're willing to put up with it for long enough.
posted by GCU Sweet and Full of Grace at 1:34 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
On the other hand, he beautifully teed up both Dan Rather and John Fetterman. So it's not a total loss I guess
posted by ook at 1:35 PM on August 16, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by ook at 1:35 PM on August 16, 2022 [1 favorite]
Maybe crud-ites are luddites but for vegetables instead of tech.
The crud-ites are like the Deadites, but rather than being corpses inhabited by demons, they are trays of vegetables inhabited by extremely crass and obnoxious spirits.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:38 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
The crud-ites are like the Deadites, but rather than being corpses inhabited by demons, they are trays of vegetables inhabited by extremely crass and obnoxious spirits.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:38 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
The most infuriating part of this is, he's not even actually wrong. Food prices are projected to rise 10% this year; compared to 3.5% last year and the year before that; the 20 year historical average is 2.4%.
I mean, he's wrong about "we've got Joe Biden to thank for this"
He's not 100% wrong about that, as Joe Biden has mostly continued Trump's immigration policies and hundreds of thousands of people who grow and pick vegetables in the US and Mexico died from COVID, so the cost of growing and picking has gone up. But he wouldn't support any policies that actually fixed any of the problems.
posted by The_Vegetables at 1:42 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
I mean, he's wrong about "we've got Joe Biden to thank for this"
He's not 100% wrong about that, as Joe Biden has mostly continued Trump's immigration policies and hundreds of thousands of people who grow and pick vegetables in the US and Mexico died from COVID, so the cost of growing and picking has gone up. But he wouldn't support any policies that actually fixed any of the problems.
posted by The_Vegetables at 1:42 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
> I imagine this shit is a lot harder to just laugh at if you live in Pennsylvania and are running the very real risk of having that guy as your Senator.
We're laughing at Oz (and Fetterman's delight in delivering comebacks) to lighten the mood as we try to survive the utter goddamn nightmare fuel that is Doug Mastriano's bid for governor.
posted by desuetude at 2:04 PM on August 16, 2022 [20 favorites]
We're laughing at Oz (and Fetterman's delight in delivering comebacks) to lighten the mood as we try to survive the utter goddamn nightmare fuel that is Doug Mastriano's bid for governor.
posted by desuetude at 2:04 PM on August 16, 2022 [20 favorites]
Has Four Seasons Total Landscaping reached out to Dr. Oz to help with some image consulting?
posted by nubs at 2:16 PM on August 16, 2022 [7 favorites]
posted by nubs at 2:16 PM on August 16, 2022 [7 favorites]
The Fetterman campaign response (In Pennsylvania we call it a veggie tray) is the internet I'm here for.
posted by bluesky43 at 2:23 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by bluesky43 at 2:23 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
> In Pennsylvania we call it a veggie tray
Is that what the dig is, about him using the word "crudités"? I'm a coastal elite, so my perspective is skewed, but I don't see anything that bad about it. I'd probably say "vegetable platter," myself, but I wouldn't think someone was a freak for it.
posted by The corpse in the library at 3:06 PM on August 16, 2022
Is that what the dig is, about him using the word "crudités"? I'm a coastal elite, so my perspective is skewed, but I don't see anything that bad about it. I'd probably say "vegetable platter," myself, but I wouldn't think someone was a freak for it.
posted by The corpse in the library at 3:06 PM on August 16, 2022
POV you’re the grocery store employee helping Dr. Oz
posted by The corpse in the library at 3:32 PM on August 16, 2022 [5 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 3:32 PM on August 16, 2022 [5 favorites]
> Also, on the topic of crudités vs veggie tray, my family always called them relish trays. Is this weird, or just midwestern?
In my Indiana family, "veggie tray" meant raw veggies (usually carrots, celery, cucumber, bell peppers, and cherry tomatoes, often with ranch dip) while "relish tray" meant pickled veggies (sweet pickles, dill pickles, and green and black olives).
posted by pmdboi at 3:44 PM on August 16, 2022 [13 favorites]
In my Indiana family, "veggie tray" meant raw veggies (usually carrots, celery, cucumber, bell peppers, and cherry tomatoes, often with ranch dip) while "relish tray" meant pickled veggies (sweet pickles, dill pickles, and green and black olives).
posted by pmdboi at 3:44 PM on August 16, 2022 [13 favorites]
Is that what the dig is, about him using the word "crudités"? I'm a coastal elite, so my perspective is skewed, but I don't see anything that bad about it. I'd probably say "vegetable platter," myself, but I wouldn't think someone was a freak for it.
That's definitely not what the dig is. The articles elucidate.
posted by Gadarene at 3:59 PM on August 16, 2022 [5 favorites]
That's definitely not what the dig is. The articles elucidate.
posted by Gadarene at 3:59 PM on August 16, 2022 [5 favorites]
No one who lives in Pennsylvania would be looking for tequila in a supermarket aisle.
posted by octothorpe at 4:34 PM on August 16, 2022 [36 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 4:34 PM on August 16, 2022 [36 favorites]
Ah, I should have been more clear: I see there are piles of things wrong with his video. I'm specifically asking about his using the term "crudités" and if that's seen as a weird choice, among many weird choices, by people in the region.
posted by The corpse in the library at 4:48 PM on August 16, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by The corpse in the library at 4:48 PM on August 16, 2022 [1 favorite]
It's the kind of term that most people only use ironically and mispronounce on purpose. "Oh look a tray of cru-DITES, I love those".
posted by octothorpe at 5:00 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 5:00 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
In the next Oz campaign video, he is mystified to learn that gas stations in PA are not all full-serve.
posted by box at 5:04 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
posted by box at 5:04 PM on August 16, 2022 [9 favorites]
I love the Internet, but perhaps for this I should say Interwebs
posted by fluffycreature at 5:17 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by fluffycreature at 5:17 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
No one in NJ is buying tequila at the Wegway either
posted by supermedusa at 5:23 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by supermedusa at 5:23 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
The Maintenance Phase episode about Dr. Oz is great, if anyone needs more reasons to dislike him.
posted by aka burlap at 5:28 PM on August 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
posted by aka burlap at 5:28 PM on August 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
and if [crudités] seen as a weird choice, among many weird choices, by people in the region.
As somebody who has spent 80%+ of their life in the region, are there people in PA who know what the word means and sometimes use it? Of course. Is it what 98%+ of people in PA would use to describe a platter of cut up vegetables and dip that might be served as a sop to healthier eating at a premiere social function, such as an Iggles or Steelers game? FUCK NO.
No one who lives in Pennsylvania would be looking for tequila in a supermarket aisle.
Look, I still feel like I've fallen through a portal of some kind when I see beer in a supermarket. Beer!!!!!! IN A SUPER MARKET?????
posted by joyceanmachine at 5:29 PM on August 16, 2022 [15 favorites]
As somebody who has spent 80%+ of their life in the region, are there people in PA who know what the word means and sometimes use it? Of course. Is it what 98%+ of people in PA would use to describe a platter of cut up vegetables and dip that might be served as a sop to healthier eating at a premiere social function, such as an Iggles or Steelers game? FUCK NO.
No one who lives in Pennsylvania would be looking for tequila in a supermarket aisle.
Look, I still feel like I've fallen through a portal of some kind when I see beer in a supermarket. Beer!!!!!! IN A SUPER MARKET?????
posted by joyceanmachine at 5:29 PM on August 16, 2022 [15 favorites]
I mean it's one banana, Michael. What could it cost? $10?
posted by flod at 5:52 PM on August 16, 2022 [10 favorites]
posted by flod at 5:52 PM on August 16, 2022 [10 favorites]
He's not 100% wrong about that, as Joe Biden has mostly continued Trump's immigration policies and hundreds of thousands of people who grow and pick vegetables in the US and Mexico died from COVID, so the cost of growing and picking has gone up.
Welp, that didn't take long.
posted by sundrop at 6:04 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
Welp, that didn't take long.
posted by sundrop at 6:04 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
posted by The_Vegetables at 4:42 PM on August 16 [+] [!]
i mean they are something of a stakeholder
posted by glonous keming at 6:12 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
i mean they are something of a stakeholder
posted by glonous keming at 6:12 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
more of a veggieholder
posted by Ahmad Khani at 6:17 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by Ahmad Khani at 6:17 PM on August 16, 2022 [3 favorites]
buying tequila at the Wegway
Username up for grabs!
posted by Greg_Ace at 6:26 PM on August 16, 2022 [5 favorites]
Username up for grabs!
posted by Greg_Ace at 6:26 PM on August 16, 2022 [5 favorites]
I know most people can't do this, but keep an eye out if you're walking next to a farm's ditches. If you're at just the right time of the spring, you'll be able to break off a few stalks of wild young asparagus before it goes to seed, and eat it raw.
If you never get that chance, just imagine everything good about asparagus, but doubled.
Don't eat them all. Let the seeds build for next spring.
Alas, this will forever ruin for you those pale poles of wood that Oz has in his little talons.
posted by SunSnork at 8:18 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
If you never get that chance, just imagine everything good about asparagus, but doubled.
Don't eat them all. Let the seeds build for next spring.
Alas, this will forever ruin for you those pale poles of wood that Oz has in his little talons.
posted by SunSnork at 8:18 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
How do people who are really dumb somehow get doctor's degrees (and then go into politics)?
posted by jenfullmoon at 15:30 on August 16
Legacy admissions
posted by I paid money to offer this... insight? at 8:52 PM on August 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
posted by jenfullmoon at 15:30 on August 16
Legacy admissions
posted by I paid money to offer this... insight? at 8:52 PM on August 16, 2022 [4 favorites]
In Pennsylvania we call it a veggie tray
Is that what the dig is, about him using the word "crudités"? I'm a coastal elite, so my perspective is skewed, but I don't see anything that bad about it. I'd probably say "vegetable platter," myself, but I wouldn't think someone was a freak for it.
posted by The corpse in the library at 18:06 on August 16
It's called crudités in New Jersey, where "Doctor" Oz is running from, Pennsylvania is a state no one can prove "Doctor" Oz has been to
posted by I paid money to offer this... insight? at 9:03 PM on August 16, 2022 [2 favorites]
Is that what the dig is, about him using the word "crudités"? I'm a coastal elite, so my perspective is skewed, but I don't see anything that bad about it. I'd probably say "vegetable platter," myself, but I wouldn't think someone was a freak for it.
posted by The corpse in the library at 18:06 on August 16
It's called crudités in New Jersey, where "Doctor" Oz is running from, Pennsylvania is a state no one can prove "Doctor" Oz has been to
posted by I paid money to offer this... insight? at 9:03 PM on August 16, 2022 [2 favorites]
Well that was some weird shit...
I don't feel so much that he is out of touch because he is a rich guy -- it's more like he is some sort of alien lizard person, trying to act human and failing.
posted by mumimor at 11:29 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
I don't feel so much that he is out of touch because he is a rich guy -- it's more like he is some sort of alien lizard person, trying to act human and failing.
posted by mumimor at 11:29 PM on August 16, 2022 [6 favorites]
It seems kind of insane to me that one can run for Senate in a state they don't live in. Yes, yes, he can "prove a residence" by virtue of buying - or even renting - a place and showing proof of mail.
Since we don't allow foreign-born folks - even if they've been here almost literally their entire lives - to run for president (which increasingly sounds weird) it seems easy to say "hey, if you don't have at least 6 years of verifiable active residence in the state in which you intend to be Senator, that's a nope!"
But, once again, the extremely wealthy will probably find a way around that as well, the same way grifter Oz has. Maybe we should just apply the Citizenship Test to them locally for said runs?
Something like "okay, you say you're running in PA, please name literally any 3 Philly cheesesteak places you've visited and rank them in order"
I've gone into fanfic territory, haven't I? Anyway, surely we should have a law here but at least he's polling 11+ points behind.
posted by revmitcz at 12:43 AM on August 17, 2022 [10 favorites]
Since we don't allow foreign-born folks - even if they've been here almost literally their entire lives - to run for president (which increasingly sounds weird) it seems easy to say "hey, if you don't have at least 6 years of verifiable active residence in the state in which you intend to be Senator, that's a nope!"
But, once again, the extremely wealthy will probably find a way around that as well, the same way grifter Oz has. Maybe we should just apply the Citizenship Test to them locally for said runs?
Something like "okay, you say you're running in PA, please name literally any 3 Philly cheesesteak places you've visited and rank them in order"
I've gone into fanfic territory, haven't I? Anyway, surely we should have a law here but at least he's polling 11+ points behind.
posted by revmitcz at 12:43 AM on August 17, 2022 [10 favorites]
By all accounts, he is actually a great surgeon.
He used to have an academic appointment at my med school. While I never worked with him, he was fairly well-respected, though even then there was a sense that he was selling out (but had not yet gone completely bananas)*. Did a lecture for us in first-year, which managed to be both entertaining and informative. Featured this video of an adorable kinesin strutting down a microtubule. Just about the only content I can recall from that entire year.
* Speaking of bananas
posted by basalganglia at 4:45 AM on August 17, 2022 [2 favorites]
He used to have an academic appointment at my med school. While I never worked with him, he was fairly well-respected, though even then there was a sense that he was selling out (but had not yet gone completely bananas)*. Did a lecture for us in first-year, which managed to be both entertaining and informative. Featured this video of an adorable kinesin strutting down a microtubule. Just about the only content I can recall from that entire year.
* Speaking of bananas
posted by basalganglia at 4:45 AM on August 17, 2022 [2 favorites]
just imagine everything good about asparagus, but doubled
Zero times two is still zero.
posted by Servo5678 at 5:05 AM on August 17, 2022 [5 favorites]
Zero times two is still zero.
posted by Servo5678 at 5:05 AM on August 17, 2022 [5 favorites]
revmitcz: please name literally any 3 Philly cheesesteak places you've visited and rank them in order
Pat's
Pat's
Pat's
/delicious derail
posted by emelenjr at 5:10 AM on August 17, 2022 [2 favorites]
Pat's
Pat's
Pat's
/delicious derail
posted by emelenjr at 5:10 AM on August 17, 2022 [2 favorites]
please name literally any 3 Philly cheesesteak places you've visited and rank them in order
Pats and Genos can go bite hogs, they's good for tourists and drunks at 2am but that's about it. The correct answer is Leo's - a smidge outside the city proper but godDAMN they make a delicious monster of a cheesesteak (a large is 18"). The best part is you can get em made to travel - they put the hot fixins in a separate foil wrap from the bread and pack it up so you can drive three hours away and still assemble a hot steak on fresh bread at the end, no oven required.
posted by FatherDagon at 9:04 AM on August 17, 2022 [6 favorites]
Pats and Genos can go bite hogs, they's good for tourists and drunks at 2am but that's about it. The correct answer is Leo's - a smidge outside the city proper but godDAMN they make a delicious monster of a cheesesteak (a large is 18"). The best part is you can get em made to travel - they put the hot fixins in a separate foil wrap from the bread and pack it up so you can drive three hours away and still assemble a hot steak on fresh bread at the end, no oven required.
posted by FatherDagon at 9:04 AM on August 17, 2022 [6 favorites]
MetaFilter: good for tourists and drunks at 2am but that's about it
posted by kirkaracha at 10:14 AM on August 17, 2022 [11 favorites]
posted by kirkaracha at 10:14 AM on August 17, 2022 [11 favorites]
The enemies of my enemies over at the Lincoln Project are out here trying to bring back Pop-Up Video.
posted by box at 10:19 AM on August 17, 2022
posted by box at 10:19 AM on August 17, 2022
Pats and Genos can go bite hogs, they's good for tourists and drunks at 2am but that's about it.
Absolutely correct. Every local neighborhood Primo's make a better steak sandwich than either Pat's or Geno's.
But I'd argue that the true Philadelphian sandwich is the roast pork. Specifically, the John's Roast Pork in South Philly next to the train tracks and by a factory that, when running, made your teeth feel furry. In proper Philadelphia fashion, it used to be open only between 6 am and 3 pm, never on weekends, cash only, take-out only, all orders served with extreme surliness if you weren't a regular or dithered with your order. But I think the kids of the guy took over, and it's now open on more normal hours and takes credit cards.
On the other hand, they don't offer broccoli rabe on the roast pork anymore, only spinach, because we live in a fallen world.
posted by joyceanmachine at 12:00 PM on August 17, 2022 [4 favorites]
Absolutely correct. Every local neighborhood Primo's make a better steak sandwich than either Pat's or Geno's.
But I'd argue that the true Philadelphian sandwich is the roast pork. Specifically, the John's Roast Pork in South Philly next to the train tracks and by a factory that, when running, made your teeth feel furry. In proper Philadelphia fashion, it used to be open only between 6 am and 3 pm, never on weekends, cash only, take-out only, all orders served with extreme surliness if you weren't a regular or dithered with your order. But I think the kids of the guy took over, and it's now open on more normal hours and takes credit cards.
On the other hand, they don't offer broccoli rabe on the roast pork anymore, only spinach, because we live in a fallen world.
posted by joyceanmachine at 12:00 PM on August 17, 2022 [4 favorites]
I look forward to Oz’s next “hello fellow proles” adventure, in which he sits down with a Butterscotch Krimpet and tries to figure out what to do with it.
(I’d argue it’s a better health tonic than any snake oil he’s ever endorsed, but YMMV.)
posted by armeowda at 2:04 PM on August 17, 2022 [1 favorite]
(I’d argue it’s a better health tonic than any snake oil he’s ever endorsed, but YMMV.)
posted by armeowda at 2:04 PM on August 17, 2022 [1 favorite]
Re cheesesteaks; Dr. Oz already did the requisite “I am a man of the people” trip to Pat’s and Geno’s, and immediately got roasted by Fetterman for being a tourist. Also, Geno’s has a history of being racist trash, don’t support them.
The true Philly local galaxy-brain cheesesteak take is that the best cheesesteak is the one you get at your corner store, because it’s difficult to fuck up a cheesesteak too badly. I am personally a roast pork only person.
posted by ActionPopulated at 2:46 PM on August 17, 2022 [6 favorites]
The true Philly local galaxy-brain cheesesteak take is that the best cheesesteak is the one you get at your corner store, because it’s difficult to fuck up a cheesesteak too badly. I am personally a roast pork only person.
posted by ActionPopulated at 2:46 PM on August 17, 2022 [6 favorites]
I can't believe how hungry this thread is making me. ❤️ to all our Philly members, please enjoy the cheesesteak of your choice asap and raise a glass to my seething envy.
posted by taz at 3:00 PM on August 17, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by taz at 3:00 PM on August 17, 2022 [1 favorite]
I like to pronounce it crud-ites, just to annoy the waiterbreak
It's funny till you say it intentionally wrongly so many times it becomes your brain's default pronunciation, then you say it in front of people and sound dumb. Ask me how I know.
See also: Can Apes.
posted by biffa at 4:28 PM on August 17, 2022 [7 favorites]
It's funny till you say it intentionally wrongly so many times it becomes your brain's default pronunciation, then you say it in front of people and sound dumb. Ask me how I know.
See also: Can Apes.
posted by biffa at 4:28 PM on August 17, 2022 [7 favorites]
I thought that it was heart-warmingly amusing that this chump would go SHOPPING in the produce section FOR THE CAMERA - and would not have the foresight to pick up a damn shopping basket.
Because obviously he wants to prove to voters that HE HAS NEVER SHOPPED FOR HIS OWN GROCERIES *EVER* IN HIS LIFE.
posted by AsYouKnow Bob at 12:37 AM on August 18, 2022 [2 favorites]
Because obviously he wants to prove to voters that HE HAS NEVER SHOPPED FOR HIS OWN GROCERIES *EVER* IN HIS LIFE.
posted by AsYouKnow Bob at 12:37 AM on August 18, 2022 [2 favorites]
Even if the Wegner's video wasn't insane, it should be disqualifying that Oz is running a campaign that 1) hates him so much that they let it happen, 2) are so bad at their jobs that they thought it was fine, or 3) Oz doesn't have anyone on his team who can tell him that he's being an idiot.
If your own campaign put out a video that raised $500K for your opponent, you are not good at this!
As a PA resident, however, I'm still scared that Doug Mastriano will bring out enough rabid MAGA types to make the Fetterman/Oz race closer than it's polling now.
posted by gladly at 7:04 AM on August 18, 2022 [4 favorites]
If your own campaign put out a video that raised $500K for your opponent, you are not good at this!
As a PA resident, however, I'm still scared that Doug Mastriano will bring out enough rabid MAGA types to make the Fetterman/Oz race closer than it's polling now.
posted by gladly at 7:04 AM on August 18, 2022 [4 favorites]
See also: Can Apes.
See also: Frank Pentangeli's can o' peas.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 3:08 PM on August 19, 2022
See also: Frank Pentangeli's can o' peas.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 3:08 PM on August 19, 2022
Also, Geno’s has a history of being racist trash, don’t support them.
The racist trash died and his gay son took over and removed the bullshit xenophobic signs.
(It's still not a good cheesesteak and there's still the police adulation wall, but this is literally my immediate neighborhood and if you're gonna criticize I need it to be correct.)
posted by desuetude at 10:56 PM on August 19, 2022 [2 favorites]
The racist trash died and his gay son took over and removed the bullshit xenophobic signs.
(It's still not a good cheesesteak and there's still the police adulation wall, but this is literally my immediate neighborhood and if you're gonna criticize I need it to be correct.)
posted by desuetude at 10:56 PM on August 19, 2022 [2 favorites]
Since we're on cheeses tweaks, there's a pizza place that serves them up 9th street from Pat's and Geno's that responded to the Geno's signs by having anyone who came in and spoke another language write something like "welcome to Philadelphia we're happy to have you here" in the and then they'd post it up on the wall. They had a ton of them up. Also much better food. They're on the corner of 9th and Christian, go there instead.
posted by sepviva at 2:50 PM on August 20, 2022
posted by sepviva at 2:50 PM on August 20, 2022
there's still the police adulation wall
If the son took that down, the place would be closed down on some bullshit within a month.
posted by Etrigan at 5:54 PM on August 20, 2022
If the son took that down, the place would be closed down on some bullshit within a month.
posted by Etrigan at 5:54 PM on August 20, 2022
there's a pizza place that serves them up 9th street from Pat's and Geno's that responded to the Geno's signs by having anyone who came in and spoke another language write something like "welcome to Philadelphia we're happy to have you here"
Lorenzo's had a multilingual Please Order And Pay At The Register wall - there's a photo in this review from 2015.
posted by zamboni at 6:28 PM on August 21, 2022
Lorenzo's had a multilingual Please Order And Pay At The Register wall - there's a photo in this review from 2015.
posted by zamboni at 6:28 PM on August 21, 2022
That's the one! Apparently it grew in my memory. Not to be confused with the South Street Lorenzo's.
posted by sepviva at 7:20 PM on August 21, 2022
posted by sepviva at 7:20 PM on August 21, 2022
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