leftists..."progressives"...we will call them the unhumans.
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"[U]nhumans oppose everything that makes up humanity. As they are opposed to humanity itself, they place themselves outside of the category completely....they rob and they kill...They don't believe what they say. They don't care about winning debates. They don't even want equality. They just want an excuse to destroy everything. They want an excuse to destroy you." So begins Unhumans, an Amazon best-seller by Jack Posobiec. Cover blurbs lauding the book are by J.D. Vance, Donald Trump, Jr. and Michael T. Flynn.
Dehumanization is Stage 4 of the 10 stages of genocide.
Dehumanization is Stage 4 of the 10 stages of genocide.
Sometimes when you're deploring at 10, you need extra deplacity to deplore up to 11.
posted by k3ninho at 2:53 PM on August 7 [16 favorites]
posted by k3ninho at 2:53 PM on August 7 [16 favorites]
Every accusation a confession.
posted by caution live frogs at 2:55 PM on August 7 [84 favorites]
posted by caution live frogs at 2:55 PM on August 7 [84 favorites]
lord love a duck
posted by bombastic lowercase pronouncements at 3:00 PM on August 7 [8 favorites]
posted by bombastic lowercase pronouncements at 3:00 PM on August 7 [8 favorites]
If DARVO was an Olympic sport…
posted by gnutron at 3:00 PM on August 7 [18 favorites]
posted by gnutron at 3:00 PM on August 7 [18 favorites]
Do we another thread calling these guys weird Nazis? Absolutely for sure we do.
posted by Artw at 3:04 PM on August 7 [16 favorites]
posted by Artw at 3:04 PM on August 7 [16 favorites]
Far-right speaker Jack Posobiec tells attendees at the Conservative Political Action Conference his goal: To "replace" democracy (CNN, Feb. 23, 2024)
Jack Posobiec is a pro-Trump conspiracy theorist and attention-seeking MAGA troll with white supremacist ties (MediaMatters.org)
The Southern Poverty Law Center's page for Posobiec: This investigation has found that Posobiec — a Trump favorite — has collaborated with white supremacists, neo-fascists and antisemites for years, while producing propaganda that Trump and his inner circle have publicly celebrated. “Jack Posobiec’s extensive ties to white supremacists should serve as a wake-up call for anyone who hasn’t made the connection between Trump’s MAGA movement and hate,” said Michael Edison Hayden, the SPLC senior investigative reporter who uncovered the story about Posobiec and his ties to white supremacy and the White House.
posted by Iris Gambol at 3:09 PM on August 7 [20 favorites]
Jack Posobiec is a pro-Trump conspiracy theorist and attention-seeking MAGA troll with white supremacist ties (MediaMatters.org)
The Southern Poverty Law Center's page for Posobiec: This investigation has found that Posobiec — a Trump favorite — has collaborated with white supremacists, neo-fascists and antisemites for years, while producing propaganda that Trump and his inner circle have publicly celebrated. “Jack Posobiec’s extensive ties to white supremacists should serve as a wake-up call for anyone who hasn’t made the connection between Trump’s MAGA movement and hate,” said Michael Edison Hayden, the SPLC senior investigative reporter who uncovered the story about Posobiec and his ties to white supremacy and the White House.
posted by Iris Gambol at 3:09 PM on August 7 [20 favorites]
Progressives "simply hate those who are good-looking and successful": an actual pull quote from the book. Okay, chief: someone had to come in first in the "Make Donald Trump seem coherent" contest.
posted by outgrown_hobnail at 3:16 PM on August 7 [8 favorites]
posted by outgrown_hobnail at 3:16 PM on August 7 [8 favorites]
> Do we another thread calling these guys weird Nazis? Absolutely for sure we do.
used to be weird nazis searched for the lance of longinus inside the hollow earth. used to be weird nazis built secret bases on the dark side of the moon from which they could perform forbidden rituals. these nazis, though, they just stay on the couch all day.
this generation deserves better weird nazis, that's what i say!
posted by bombastic lowercase pronouncements at 3:16 PM on August 7 [36 favorites]
used to be weird nazis searched for the lance of longinus inside the hollow earth. used to be weird nazis built secret bases on the dark side of the moon from which they could perform forbidden rituals. these nazis, though, they just stay on the couch all day.
this generation deserves better weird nazis, that's what i say!
posted by bombastic lowercase pronouncements at 3:16 PM on August 7 [36 favorites]
bombastic!, as a youth I read The Spear of Destiny, no link as it's very weird, creepy as f$%& and I think mentally harmful.
posted by unearthed at 3:27 PM on August 7 [1 favorite]
posted by unearthed at 3:27 PM on August 7 [1 favorite]
Mainly I want weird Nazi shit to be a lot less relevant to the world than it seems to be now. Occult Nazi shit, techno Nazi shit, old school Nazi style nazi shit - all of it shoukd be the stuff of history books and RPG sourcebooks, not vital information you need to know to understand what the Republican VP candidate and his shitty techlord owner are about.
posted by Artw at 3:32 PM on August 7 [65 favorites]
posted by Artw at 3:32 PM on August 7 [65 favorites]
Jack Posobiec was one of the big names pushing Pizzagate, for those who have forgotten the scandals of the Before Times.
posted by gentlyepigrams at 3:40 PM on August 7 [25 favorites]
posted by gentlyepigrams at 3:40 PM on August 7 [25 favorites]
> what the Republican VP candidate and his shitty techlord owner are about.
everyone knows that back in the early 2000s peter thiel harvested jd vance's young blood for its rejuvenative powers but what no one's talking about is what he replaced it with
posted by bombastic lowercase pronouncements at 3:50 PM on August 7 [31 favorites]
everyone knows that back in the early 2000s peter thiel harvested jd vance's young blood for its rejuvenative powers but what no one's talking about is what he replaced it with
posted by bombastic lowercase pronouncements at 3:50 PM on August 7 [31 favorites]
“Master… what is a hu-couch? What… what is it that I have become?”
posted by Artw at 3:55 PM on August 7 [3 favorites]
posted by Artw at 3:55 PM on August 7 [3 favorites]
As if Trump reads.
posted by NotLost at 3:58 PM on August 7 [9 favorites]
posted by NotLost at 3:58 PM on August 7 [9 favorites]
One hope is that apparently even Alex Jones cannot stand Posobiec. The Right-Wing Grift Squad hate each other possibly more than they hate sensible people.
posted by GenjiandProust at 4:07 PM on August 7 [9 favorites]
posted by GenjiandProust at 4:07 PM on August 7 [9 favorites]
bombastic!, as a youth I read The Spear of Destiny, no link as it's very weird, creepy as f$%& and I think mentally harmful.
For this unhuman, the definitive, and much safer, work on that spear is issue #50 of Weird War Tales (An Appointment with Destiny!).
It is of its time, though. So, it ends with a dose of Yellow Perilism, but is still solidly on the side of Audie Murphying Nazis.
posted by house-goblin at 4:40 PM on August 7 [5 favorites]
For this unhuman, the definitive, and much safer, work on that spear is issue #50 of Weird War Tales (An Appointment with Destiny!).
It is of its time, though. So, it ends with a dose of Yellow Perilism, but is still solidly on the side of Audie Murphying Nazis.
posted by house-goblin at 4:40 PM on August 7 [5 favorites]
✭ GASLIGHTING ✭ OBSTRUCTION ✭ PROJECTION ✭
posted by torokunai at 4:53 PM on August 7 [5 favorites]
posted by torokunai at 4:53 PM on August 7 [5 favorites]
MetaFilter: vital information you need to know to understand what the Republican VP candidate and his shitty techlord owner are about.
posted by wenestvedt at 4:55 PM on August 7 [5 favorites]
posted by wenestvedt at 4:55 PM on August 7 [5 favorites]
Awww. Who's an edgy boy? IS IT YOU? ARE YOU THE EDGIEST BOY?! Awww... Wuzza wuzza you edgy edgy boy!
posted by rmd1023 at 4:57 PM on August 7 [20 favorites]
posted by rmd1023 at 4:57 PM on August 7 [20 favorites]
shoukd be the stuff of history books and RPG sourcebooks, not vital information you need to know to understand what the Republican VP candidate and his shitty techlord owner are about
I will say, though, being generally interested in esoteric weirdness and far right cults and stuff in the context of fiction and RPGs and similar nerd shit has been really fucking useful over the last decade or so to understand what's going on, the various dogwhistles and strange symbolism, and where this is headed, to the extent that I feel like I've recommended Goodrick-Clarke's two books on the subject to dozens of people lately, versus, uh, never before that. Art, literature, and general curiosity about things is a decent inoculation against falling for the latest fascist bullshit, I guess.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 5:16 PM on August 7 [20 favorites]
I will say, though, being generally interested in esoteric weirdness and far right cults and stuff in the context of fiction and RPGs and similar nerd shit has been really fucking useful over the last decade or so to understand what's going on, the various dogwhistles and strange symbolism, and where this is headed, to the extent that I feel like I've recommended Goodrick-Clarke's two books on the subject to dozens of people lately, versus, uh, never before that. Art, literature, and general curiosity about things is a decent inoculation against falling for the latest fascist bullshit, I guess.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 5:16 PM on August 7 [20 favorites]
They're literally calling their opponents untermenschen. Yeah, this is pure Nazi shit.
posted by Artifice_Eternity at 5:30 PM on August 7 [38 favorites]
posted by Artifice_Eternity at 5:30 PM on August 7 [38 favorites]
They need to keep ratcheting up the potency to keep feeding the fiends’ high, but the fiends are eventually a vanishingly-small slice of the electorate.
I hope.
posted by box at 5:41 PM on August 7 [7 favorites]
I hope.
posted by box at 5:41 PM on August 7 [7 favorites]
I will say, though, being generally interested in esoteric weirdness and far right cults and stuff in the context of fiction and RPGs and similar nerd shit has been really fucking useful over the last decade or so to understand what's going on
Kinda, but it also makes me feel like I’m helplessly watching shit and then when I try to explain what is going in I sound insane. Doing light background reading on some Grant Morrison comics shouldn’t have that power.
posted by Artw at 5:47 PM on August 7 [12 favorites]
Kinda, but it also makes me feel like I’m helplessly watching shit and then when I try to explain what is going in I sound insane. Doing light background reading on some Grant Morrison comics shouldn’t have that power.
posted by Artw at 5:47 PM on August 7 [12 favorites]
Curses! My fiendish plot has been foiled by the ever vigilant patriots!
posted by schrodycat at 5:47 PM on August 7 [1 favorite]
posted by schrodycat at 5:47 PM on August 7 [1 favorite]
I wish I had the skills to deepfake Trump’s face into the propaganda posters of the human-suit-wearing alien lizards from “V.” But that’s probably too old now. The kids would be like, “huh?”
Specifically in this clip.
posted by Naberius at 5:57 PM on August 7 [3 favorites]
Specifically in this clip.
posted by Naberius at 5:57 PM on August 7 [3 favorites]
I think even the 2009 version of "V" is too old.
posted by rmd1023 at 6:01 PM on August 7 [3 favorites]
posted by rmd1023 at 6:01 PM on August 7 [3 favorites]
A few bits of the NYT coverage of this story jumped out at me yesterday:
One of their book’s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country’s 1930s civil war. The authors call him a “great man of history” and compare him to George Washington. They quote him on what doesn’t work against the unhuman threat: “We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box...
.. “Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende’s elected government in 1973..
posted by p3t3 at 6:05 PM on August 7 [10 favorites]
One of their book’s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country’s 1930s civil war. The authors call him a “great man of history” and compare him to George Washington. They quote him on what doesn’t work against the unhuman threat: “We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box...
.. “Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende’s elected government in 1973..
posted by p3t3 at 6:05 PM on August 7 [10 favorites]
These people are both hilariously cowardly doofuses with heads full of stupid ideas AND they would totally throw you out of a helicopter if they could. Neither should be forgotten ever.
posted by Artw at 6:14 PM on August 7 [49 favorites]
posted by Artw at 6:14 PM on August 7 [49 favorites]
Totally cool and very normal. Not at all weird to talk this way about people.
posted by angrynerd at 6:58 PM on August 7 [5 favorites]
posted by angrynerd at 6:58 PM on August 7 [5 favorites]
my only hope is that the continued and ever higher-pitched cries of "they'll destroy your country and everything you have and care about" coming from the right have started to ring hollow, but I dunno. Trump says Harris will "destroy America" at every stump speech, and that Walz will "bring hell on earth" on his posts, but I often underestimate the American People's tolerance for a boy crying wolf.
posted by Jon_Evil at 7:00 PM on August 7 [2 favorites]
posted by Jon_Evil at 7:00 PM on August 7 [2 favorites]
People keep going back to church after all those failed apocalypses, so yeah.
posted by brook horse at 7:28 PM on August 7 [7 favorites]
posted by brook horse at 7:28 PM on August 7 [7 favorites]
"Can't go left in General Pinochet's Cadillac"
You have to admit, it takes balls to publish something praising Franco and Pinochet...
What fascist ghouls
posted by Windopaene at 8:35 PM on August 7 [8 favorites]
You have to admit, it takes balls to publish something praising Franco and Pinochet...
What fascist ghouls
posted by Windopaene at 8:35 PM on August 7 [8 favorites]
Dehumanization is Stage 4 of the 10 stages of genocide.
I have been saying for 20 years now that the nutball right (which has now taken over the Republican Party) has been preparing a genocide ala Rwanda. I was surprised when they went to full on Nazi shit with Trump. And make no mistake, it is full on Nazi shit. Straight out of Hitler's playbook.
Thankfully, the opposition in the US is not quite as obsessed with ideological purity as the parties in 1930s Germany, so they're having a harder time outright seizing power. Worryingly, however, there are many police departments that are all too happy to stand by while the brown shirts wreck shit because they are of the belief that only the wingnuts can "fix the country" (or are Nazis themselves), on the so far thankfully rare occasions the brown shirts bother to get off their couch.
It's actually pretty fucking eerie how close the wingnuts are sticking to the Nazi playbook in the broad strokes.
Shutting them down wouldn't actually be that hard if only somebody could figure out a way to chisel the Christofascist milleniarians from the Nazifascists. The Christofascists aren't actually in to all that Nazi shit, they just don't care because they think they'll be able to bring about the rapture before it matters. As far as they're concerned we're right on the brink as it is. They just need to give Iran and Israel a little push to start exchanging nukes and it'll be done, in their estimation. This is why they are stoked about Israel genociding the Palestinians and are doing everything in their power to keep it going (like making aid to Ukraine contingent on aid to Israel).
posted by wierdo at 9:08 PM on August 7 [15 favorites]
I have been saying for 20 years now that the nutball right (which has now taken over the Republican Party) has been preparing a genocide ala Rwanda. I was surprised when they went to full on Nazi shit with Trump. And make no mistake, it is full on Nazi shit. Straight out of Hitler's playbook.
Thankfully, the opposition in the US is not quite as obsessed with ideological purity as the parties in 1930s Germany, so they're having a harder time outright seizing power. Worryingly, however, there are many police departments that are all too happy to stand by while the brown shirts wreck shit because they are of the belief that only the wingnuts can "fix the country" (or are Nazis themselves), on the so far thankfully rare occasions the brown shirts bother to get off their couch.
It's actually pretty fucking eerie how close the wingnuts are sticking to the Nazi playbook in the broad strokes.
Shutting them down wouldn't actually be that hard if only somebody could figure out a way to chisel the Christofascist milleniarians from the Nazifascists. The Christofascists aren't actually in to all that Nazi shit, they just don't care because they think they'll be able to bring about the rapture before it matters. As far as they're concerned we're right on the brink as it is. They just need to give Iran and Israel a little push to start exchanging nukes and it'll be done, in their estimation. This is why they are stoked about Israel genociding the Palestinians and are doing everything in their power to keep it going (like making aid to Ukraine contingent on aid to Israel).
posted by wierdo at 9:08 PM on August 7 [15 favorites]
Franco? Franco?! Even in Spain, praising Franco is a fast ticket to the political wilderness. Only a real couch-fucker could praise that weirdo.
posted by Just the one swan, actually at 9:36 PM on August 7 [4 favorites]
posted by Just the one swan, actually at 9:36 PM on August 7 [4 favorites]
Franco? Franco?! Even in Spain, praising Franco is a fast ticket to the political wilderness. Only a real couch-fucker could praise that weirdo.
Are you serious? People with ties to the Franco regime are rife in the Partido Popular, and Vox has practically made it sport to piss of people on the left by praising Franco.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 10:15 PM on August 7 [6 favorites]
Are you serious? People with ties to the Franco regime are rife in the Partido Popular, and Vox has practically made it sport to piss of people on the left by praising Franco.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 10:15 PM on August 7 [6 favorites]
You have to admit, it takes balls to publish something praising Franco and Pinochet...
Franco only had one, the other was lost to injury. Hitler also had only one, and so did Mao. Both suffered from cryptorchidism, and I think there’s a case to be made that they both displayed signs of an anti-NMDA receptor like derangement syndrome because the undescended testicle often becomes cancerous, testicular cancers are often teratomas, which share antigens with other tissues in the body, including and especially the CNS, and those shared antigens cause the other tissues in the body to be attacked when the immune system attacks the tumor, giving rise to a psychosis when the shared antigens are in certain parts of the brain.
posted by jamjam at 10:58 PM on August 7 [9 favorites]
Franco only had one, the other was lost to injury. Hitler also had only one, and so did Mao. Both suffered from cryptorchidism, and I think there’s a case to be made that they both displayed signs of an anti-NMDA receptor like derangement syndrome because the undescended testicle often becomes cancerous, testicular cancers are often teratomas, which share antigens with other tissues in the body, including and especially the CNS, and those shared antigens cause the other tissues in the body to be attacked when the immune system attacks the tumor, giving rise to a psychosis when the shared antigens are in certain parts of the brain.
posted by jamjam at 10:58 PM on August 7 [9 favorites]
leftists..."progressives"...we will call them the unhumans.
The Republicans have long trafficked in this kind of ridiculous hyperbole. Jeanine Pirro called Democrats "DEMON RATS" in a memorable Fox News piece back in 2018. Ann Coulter wrote a series of books about Democrats with names like "Slander," "Godless" and (hilariously, in context of January 6th) "Treason." As was said earlier: every accusation is a confession.
Weird doesn't even begin to cover it. Sometimes I wonder what Metafilter's vanished conservative brigade thinks about the Republicans' meltdown. Did dios "hold his nose" and vote for Trump?
posted by JHarris at 1:01 AM on August 8 [20 favorites]
The Republicans have long trafficked in this kind of ridiculous hyperbole. Jeanine Pirro called Democrats "DEMON RATS" in a memorable Fox News piece back in 2018. Ann Coulter wrote a series of books about Democrats with names like "Slander," "Godless" and (hilariously, in context of January 6th) "Treason." As was said earlier: every accusation is a confession.
Weird doesn't even begin to cover it. Sometimes I wonder what Metafilter's vanished conservative brigade thinks about the Republicans' meltdown. Did dios "hold his nose" and vote for Trump?
posted by JHarris at 1:01 AM on August 8 [20 favorites]
This is interesting, I've been thinking a lot about the Franco regime recently. Obviously, Trump himself is more like Mussolini or Hitler, Franco was a quieter person. But there is something about the Opus Dei connection and maybe also about a fascist regime that survived far into the second half of the 20th century and was in many ways normalized by a lot of people.
It would make sense if people who are facsist-leaning today would rather seek inspiration in a country where the dictator lived to a comfortable old age and lots of people described the country as well-run.
Weirdly, even as a child I didn't like authoritarian regimes. I went once with my mum to Ibiza for a week, and after that I always noped out. Since my best friend was Spanish, that was a lot of noping, but something made me feel uncomfortable.
I wonder how many of these hard right "thinkers" went to Spain during Franco and loved it there.
posted by mumimor at 2:35 AM on August 8 [6 favorites]
It would make sense if people who are facsist-leaning today would rather seek inspiration in a country where the dictator lived to a comfortable old age and lots of people described the country as well-run.
Weirdly, even as a child I didn't like authoritarian regimes. I went once with my mum to Ibiza for a week, and after that I always noped out. Since my best friend was Spanish, that was a lot of noping, but something made me feel uncomfortable.
I wonder how many of these hard right "thinkers" went to Spain during Franco and loved it there.
posted by mumimor at 2:35 AM on August 8 [6 favorites]
The Secret History of Communist Revolutions, and How to Crush Them
Sure man. Let me guess, the Secret History is just regular history with a few lies, because all history is secret to a goldfish brain. And your big idea for how to crush communism is unmarked mass graves? Real original, bud.
posted by jy4m at 4:48 AM on August 8 [9 favorites]
Sure man. Let me guess, the Secret History is just regular history with a few lies, because all history is secret to a goldfish brain. And your big idea for how to crush communism is unmarked mass graves? Real original, bud.
posted by jy4m at 4:48 AM on August 8 [9 favorites]
Franco only had one, the other was lost to injury. Hitler also had only one, and so did Mao. Both suffered from cryptorchidism, and I think there’s a case to be made that they both displayed signs of an anti-NMDA receptor like derangement syndrome [etc. etc.]
So this makes me think we maybe need to require genital exams or some similar kind of testing for anyone running for President to make sure they're qualified to compete. I mean they test people for the Olympics and that's just a big bunch of meaningless spectacle we throw every four years... wait...
posted by Naberius at 4:58 AM on August 8 [2 favorites]
So this makes me think we maybe need to require genital exams or some similar kind of testing for anyone running for President to make sure they're qualified to compete. I mean they test people for the Olympics and that's just a big bunch of meaningless spectacle we throw every four years... wait...
posted by Naberius at 4:58 AM on August 8 [2 favorites]
… all history is secret to a goldfish brain …
I am totally quoting that every chance I get! Which should be a lot in the next few months.
posted by TedW at 5:41 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]
I am totally quoting that every chance I get! Which should be a lot in the next few months.
posted by TedW at 5:41 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]
Artw and Joachim, the podcast The Empire Never Ended has a couple of eps where they take a fascist text and perform an RPG with dice rolls and all. Mockery when done right is splendid armor against illogic or insular logic.
posted by drowsy at 6:07 AM on August 8 [2 favorites]
posted by drowsy at 6:07 AM on August 8 [2 favorites]
When I first saw this, I got my Jacks confused, and thought this was a book Jack Dorsey was putting out, and it took me a really long time to realize it was a different Jack, just because it really sounds like something Dorsey would put out, too.
posted by Ghidorah at 6:17 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]
posted by Ghidorah at 6:17 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]
Jack is generally more of a “follow Nazis on social media and nod approvingly” kind of guy, like Elon was before he went mask off, though he did directly intervene to keep Nazis on Twitter from time to time.
posted by Artw at 7:02 AM on August 8 [2 favorites]
posted by Artw at 7:02 AM on August 8 [2 favorites]
The Republicans have long trafficked in this kind of ridiculous hyperbole.
Since 1990, at least as actual strategy.
posted by TedW at 7:30 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]
Since 1990, at least as actual strategy.
posted by TedW at 7:30 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]
What fascist ghouls
Been noticing a big uptick here in the usage of "ghouls" lately to describe everyone from Posobiec to Shapiro to mefites' neighbors who hold the forbidden notion that Israel is a legit country. I forget, are ghouls like ghosts in the sense they were human at one time?
posted by Press Butt.on to Check at 7:46 AM on August 8
Been noticing a big uptick here in the usage of "ghouls" lately to describe everyone from Posobiec to Shapiro to mefites' neighbors who hold the forbidden notion that Israel is a legit country. I forget, are ghouls like ghosts in the sense they were human at one time?
posted by Press Butt.on to Check at 7:46 AM on August 8
ghoul (noun)
1. An evil spirit or demon in Muslim folklore believed to plunder graves and feed on corpses.
2. A grave robber.
3. One who delights in the revolting, morbid, or loathsome.
posted by RonButNotStupid at 7:52 AM on August 8 [12 favorites]
1. An evil spirit or demon in Muslim folklore believed to plunder graves and feed on corpses.
2. A grave robber.
3. One who delights in the revolting, morbid, or loathsome.
posted by RonButNotStupid at 7:52 AM on August 8 [12 favorites]
Just remember, a taste for corpses does not determine your political identity. Plenty of ghouls support self-determination, mutual aid, and even full Left ideologies. Outside the relentless armies of the Dark Lords (which, yes, patriarchy), you will find as many anarchist as fascists, if not more.
posted by GenjiandProust at 8:07 AM on August 8 [7 favorites]
posted by GenjiandProust at 8:07 AM on August 8 [7 favorites]
I forget, are ghouls like ghosts in the sense they were human at one time?
Appropriate since they derive ideological sustenance from promising mass death.
posted by ryanshepard at 8:07 AM on August 8 [5 favorites]
Appropriate since they derive ideological sustenance from promising mass death.
posted by ryanshepard at 8:07 AM on August 8 [5 favorites]
Genocide freaks are ghouls, yes.
Press Butt.on to Check, do you believe that Israel can only be a legit country if it commits genocide? If you don’t your comment is way off.
posted by Artw at 8:42 AM on August 8 [6 favorites]
Press Butt.on to Check, do you believe that Israel can only be a legit country if it commits genocide? If you don’t your comment is way off.
posted by Artw at 8:42 AM on August 8 [6 favorites]
Jack is generally more of a “follow Nazis on social media and nod approvingly” kind of guy,
So... just one Jack off?
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 9:00 AM on August 8 [3 favorites]
So... just one Jack off?
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 9:00 AM on August 8 [3 favorites]
Press Butt.on to Check, "ghoul" is like "jerk" or "asshole" — it is a description of a type of unpleasant person. Ghouls are still humans. This is different from "unhuman," which specifies that the people who disagree with you are not human.
posted by rednikki at 9:08 AM on August 8 [6 favorites]
posted by rednikki at 9:08 AM on August 8 [6 favorites]
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posted by HearHere at 9:48 AM on August 8
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posted by HearHere at 9:48 AM on August 8
Mod note: Two comments deleted. Let's keep this thread on topic and avoid disparaging comments against other fellow mefites.
posted by loup (staff) at 10:18 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]
posted by loup (staff) at 10:18 AM on August 8 [1 favorite]
Woah! I'm adjacent to that Artw!...
I think that term totally applies to a vast majority MAGA folks. Freedom! IMPOSE OUR BELIEFS!!!
Actively supporting horrible people, who seem to just want to hurt "others"? Yeah, you fit the ghoul stereotype. maybe it is how much they seem to enjoy doing that
The 3rd explanation above totally applies.
posted by Windopaene at 10:40 AM on August 8
I think that term totally applies to a vast majority MAGA folks. Freedom! IMPOSE OUR BELIEFS!!!
Actively supporting horrible people, who seem to just want to hurt "others"? Yeah, you fit the ghoul stereotype. maybe it is how much they seem to enjoy doing that
The 3rd explanation above totally applies.
posted by Windopaene at 10:40 AM on August 8
I'll have you all know that Richard Upton Pickman is displeased with being compared to all these Republican monsters.
posted by JHarris at 4:41 PM on August 8 [6 favorites]
posted by JHarris at 4:41 PM on August 8 [6 favorites]
back in the early 2000s peter thiel harvested jd vance's young blood for its rejuvenative powers but what no one's talking about is what he replaced it with
Folgers Crystals?
posted by jackbishop at 6:39 PM on August 8 [2 favorites]
Folgers Crystals?
posted by jackbishop at 6:39 PM on August 8 [2 favorites]
Oh hey, there’s a different horrifying book.
I guess we can at least say he’s prolific.
Voters Have a Right to Know What Kevin Roberts’s Disturbing Book Says - A J.D. Vance wrote the foreword to “Dawn’s Early Light.” The rest of the book outlines an even more troubling vision.
posted by Artw at 12:20 PM on August 9 [3 favorites]
I guess we can at least say he’s prolific.
Voters Have a Right to Know What Kevin Roberts’s Disturbing Book Says - A J.D. Vance wrote the foreword to “Dawn’s Early Light.” The rest of the book outlines an even more troubling vision.
posted by Artw at 12:20 PM on August 9 [3 favorites]
I'll have you all know that Richard Upton Pickman is displeased with being compared to all these Republican monsters.
With apologies for continuing the ghoul derail, Richard should rest easy.
This is the ghoul version of the good weird, bad weird debate. Which isn’t to say Pickman’s models are “good”, but even a casual reading of Aitch-Pee-El’s source document shows they are fairly easy to live with. Basically, leave them alone, they’ll leave you alone. Whereas a defining characteristic of the creatures people are struggling to identify is that they simply cannot leave others alone.
posted by house-goblin at 12:53 PM on August 9 [4 favorites]
With apologies for continuing the ghoul derail, Richard should rest easy.
This is the ghoul version of the good weird, bad weird debate. Which isn’t to say Pickman’s models are “good”, but even a casual reading of Aitch-Pee-El’s source document shows they are fairly easy to live with. Basically, leave them alone, they’ll leave you alone. Whereas a defining characteristic of the creatures people are struggling to identify is that they simply cannot leave others alone.
posted by house-goblin at 12:53 PM on August 9 [4 favorites]
Oh hey, there’s a different horrifying book.
posted by non canadian guy at 6:20 PM on August 9 [3 favorites]
Dawn’s Early Light tells in many ways a familiar conservative story—the brain trust at the Heritage Foundation, as it happens, doesn’t have an especially new or compelling narrative to offer. America is in decline, apparently, due to “pantsuited girlboss advertising executives, Skittle-haired they/them activists, soy-faced pajama-clad work-from-home HR apparatchiks, Adderall-addicted dog mom diversity consultants, nasally voiced Ivy League regulatory lawyers, obese George Soros-funded police abolitionist district attorneys, [and] hipster trust fund socialists.” These are some of the “least impressive people in the history of the world,” though it’s actually not their fault; they are all secretly controlled by what Roberts calls the “Uniparty,” which he never quite explicitly defines but is a loose, fungible cabal of neoliberals, corporate bureaucrats, hedge-fund managers, public school unions, antifa activists, and George Soros.I am prepared to bet Franco’s remaining nut that Roberts or somebody else in his circle has called it the “Jewniparty” at least once.
posted by non canadian guy at 6:20 PM on August 9 [3 favorites]
Basically, leave them alone, they’ll leave you alone.
Or, you know, leave out some snacks for them. They like cheese. I mean... they probably like cheese.
posted by Pickman's Next Top Model at 8:52 AM on August 12 [2 favorites]
Or, you know, leave out some snacks for them. They like cheese. I mean... they probably like cheese.
posted by Pickman's Next Top Model at 8:52 AM on August 12 [2 favorites]
I am prepared to bet Franco’s remaining nut that Roberts or somebody else in his circle has called it the “Jewniparty” at least once.
There isn’t a one of these fucks that doesn’t make repeated and horrifying use of the globe emoji and the nose emoji and think they have an unbreakable code.
posted by Artw at 11:22 AM on August 12 [1 favorite]
There isn’t a one of these fucks that doesn’t make repeated and horrifying use of the globe emoji and the nose emoji and think they have an unbreakable code.
posted by Artw at 11:22 AM on August 12 [1 favorite]
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