Florida Man Breaks Laws and Violates Ethics.
December 23, 2024 12:58 PM Subscribe
The Gaetz ethics report is out. According to a 42-page report by the House Ethics Committee, the former congressman and Trump’s former pick for attorney general regularly paid for sex, possessed illegal drugs, violated the house gift rule, dispensed privileges to a sexual partner, obstructed the investigation, and violated Florida state laws by committing statutory rape of a 17-year-old.
You can read the full report.
You can read the full report.
Lucky for him he's a Republican; otherwise something might come of this.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 1:08 PM on December 23 [59 favorites]
posted by Sing Or Swim at 1:08 PM on December 23 [59 favorites]
For the serious student of American politics: (a) Will the voters who elected people who fawned over Gaetz remember that at the polls, and (b) Can anything keep Gaetz from being appointed back to the House or to the Senate, or re-elected when he inevitably runs again, and why are your answers "no" to both?
posted by BReed at 1:10 PM on December 23 [8 favorites]
posted by BReed at 1:10 PM on December 23 [8 favorites]
Stonekettle, aka Jim Wright, has this to say:
I live in Matt Gaetz district.Everyone here knew exactly who and what he was. They knew about the sex trafficking and the DUIs and the drugs and the booze and the trips to the Bahamas. They all know he's the son of Don Gaetz and the rotten apple don't fall far from the crooked tree.And they all, every one of them, voted for Gaetz -- and TRUMP -- anyway. Because that's who they are and they're proud of it.This report will change NOTHING for them. Not one thing.
posted by NoMich at 1:14 PM on December 23 [47 favorites]
I live in Matt Gaetz district.Everyone here knew exactly who and what he was. They knew about the sex trafficking and the DUIs and the drugs and the booze and the trips to the Bahamas. They all know he's the son of Don Gaetz and the rotten apple don't fall far from the crooked tree.And they all, every one of them, voted for Gaetz -- and TRUMP -- anyway. Because that's who they are and they're proud of it.This report will change NOTHING for them. Not one thing.
posted by NoMich at 1:14 PM on December 23 [47 favorites]
That's IT?
Is THAT all?!??
Compared to Trump, this is all minor-league criminality.
posted by AsYouKnow Bob at 1:22 PM on December 23 [5 favorites]
Is THAT all?!??
Compared to Trump, this is all minor-league criminality.
posted by AsYouKnow Bob at 1:22 PM on December 23 [5 favorites]
For those who don’t already know my favorite joke and need a new joke to share at their next holiday party:
What’s the difference between a chick pea and a garbanzo bean?
Matt Gaetz has never trafficked an underaged garbanzo across state lines to bean on him.
posted by rickw at 1:29 PM on December 23 [16 favorites]
What’s the difference between a chick pea and a garbanzo bean?
Matt Gaetz has never trafficked an underaged garbanzo across state lines to bean on him.
posted by rickw at 1:29 PM on December 23 [16 favorites]
Hahaha ... ewww...
posted by Reverend John at 1:34 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 1:34 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
I find it interesting that media outlets are typically using the phrase "sex with a minor" rather than statutory rape.
The amount Gaetz spent ($22,000-$30,000/year) is also telling. It can't be passed off as a couple of parties.
posted by CheeseDigestsAll at 1:39 PM on December 23 [10 favorites]
The amount Gaetz spent ($22,000-$30,000/year) is also telling. It can't be passed off as a couple of parties.
posted by CheeseDigestsAll at 1:39 PM on December 23 [10 favorites]
The amount Gaetz spent ($22,000-$30,000/year) is also telling. It can't be passed off as a couple of parties.
Perhaps you're just not getting invited to the wrong sort of party.
posted by biffa at 1:57 PM on December 23 [8 favorites]
Perhaps you're just not getting invited to the wrong sort of party.
posted by biffa at 1:57 PM on December 23 [8 favorites]
> I find it interesting that media outlets are typically using the phrase "sex with a minor" rather than statutory rape.
One of the ugliest things to point out about American white supremacist culture is that it’s not viewed as rape until the victim is old enough (18+) to give consent.
posted by Callisto Prime at 2:01 PM on December 23 [16 favorites]
One of the ugliest things to point out about American white supremacist culture is that it’s not viewed as rape until the victim is old enough (18+) to give consent.
posted by Callisto Prime at 2:01 PM on December 23 [16 favorites]
Years ago, here on Metafilter, there was a link to a case of an, if I remember correctly, 17 year old black kid who had consensual sex with his 15 year old white girlfriend. Technically, I believe, they're both guilty of statutory rape. However, the girl's parents called the cops and the boyfriend was charged and imprisoned... for 20 years. After a couple years, they offered to let him go if he agreed to be on a sex offender list for the rest of his life — along with everything that comes with being a convicted sex offender. He refused. To my knowledge, that guy is still in prison.
I think about that kid every time I hear Matt Gaetz's name.
posted by dobbs at 2:11 PM on December 23 [48 favorites]
I think about that kid every time I hear Matt Gaetz's name.
posted by dobbs at 2:11 PM on December 23 [48 favorites]
I find it interesting that media outlets are typically using the phrase "sex with a minor" rather than statutory rape
I think that’s because the Florida statute doesn’t use the term rape. It’s similar to how Trump wasn’t found liable for rape under New York law, even though he could have been if he had done the same thing in another state.
posted by smelendez at 2:14 PM on December 23 [5 favorites]
I think that’s because the Florida statute doesn’t use the term rape. It’s similar to how Trump wasn’t found liable for rape under New York law, even though he could have been if he had done the same thing in another state.
posted by smelendez at 2:14 PM on December 23 [5 favorites]
The Speaker of The House, who claims to be a devout Christian, openly defended Gaetz, and pushed to have the ethics report suppressed. He knew exactly what was in the report. There will be no consequences, political or legal, for any of it. If anything, this will improve the standing of Republicans.
I doubt there are ANY Republicans who were/are unaware of what's in the report. They've known for a long time about him, and they all stood by him.
In a normal society, everyone involved in protecting him would've already resigned.
posted by Chuffy at 2:35 PM on December 23 [16 favorites]
I doubt there are ANY Republicans who were/are unaware of what's in the report. They've known for a long time about him, and they all stood by him.
In a normal society, everyone involved in protecting him would've already resigned.
posted by Chuffy at 2:35 PM on December 23 [16 favorites]
So, he's in jail, right? Right?
posted by xedrik at 2:35 PM on December 23 [4 favorites]
posted by xedrik at 2:35 PM on December 23 [4 favorites]
So, he's in jail, right? Right?
Either that, or he'll land a comfortable job as a lobbyist or a commentator on FOX NEWS. Probably the latter.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 2:40 PM on December 23 [5 favorites]
Either that, or he'll land a comfortable job as a lobbyist or a commentator on FOX NEWS. Probably the latter.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 2:40 PM on December 23 [5 favorites]
He already found a job with One America News Network (link to an AP article).
(He's also on Cameo (maybe don't click on that one).)
posted by box at 2:42 PM on December 23 [3 favorites]
(He's also on Cameo (maybe don't click on that one).)
posted by box at 2:42 PM on December 23 [3 favorites]
Matt Gaetz is a piece of shit. What I'm more interested in, frankly, than this ridiculous escapee from a Danny McBride show, is why Trump nominated him.
The tenth dimensional chess explanation is that it was a feint meant to distract the press and public from Trump's other nominations. I would like to believe this is true, because it implies at least a small degree of cunning, a quality otherwise undetectable in Trump. Even in the evil, intelligence is a positive quality, or at least a better quality than stupidity. The stupid can never be swayed by reason.
Another, less good possibility is that Trump is just an asshole who likes to troll people, and he thought it would be funny to nominate someone so hilariously ill-suited to the role. It effectively ended whatever political career Gaetz had, so maybe it was also meant to be an exploding cigar for Gaetz himself, who perhaps had dealt some Trump some probably imaginary sleight in the past. This also implies some intelligence and foresight on Trump's part, an awareness of how his actions would be received.
The third, and most frightening possibility, is that Trump nominated Gaetz because he wanted him to get the post.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 2:43 PM on December 23 [16 favorites]
The tenth dimensional chess explanation is that it was a feint meant to distract the press and public from Trump's other nominations. I would like to believe this is true, because it implies at least a small degree of cunning, a quality otherwise undetectable in Trump. Even in the evil, intelligence is a positive quality, or at least a better quality than stupidity. The stupid can never be swayed by reason.
Another, less good possibility is that Trump is just an asshole who likes to troll people, and he thought it would be funny to nominate someone so hilariously ill-suited to the role. It effectively ended whatever political career Gaetz had, so maybe it was also meant to be an exploding cigar for Gaetz himself, who perhaps had dealt some Trump some probably imaginary sleight in the past. This also implies some intelligence and foresight on Trump's part, an awareness of how his actions would be received.
The third, and most frightening possibility, is that Trump nominated Gaetz because he wanted him to get the post.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 2:43 PM on December 23 [16 favorites]
The third, and most frightening possibility, is that Trump nominated Gaetz because he wanted him to get the post.
Most certainly. Because then he could blackmail him to do his bidding, just like the mob thug that he is.
posted by Vek at 2:51 PM on December 23 [9 favorites]
Most certainly. Because then he could blackmail him to do his bidding, just like the mob thug that he is.
posted by Vek at 2:51 PM on December 23 [9 favorites]
No, it's to prove that no matter how bad the candidates are, everyone will roll over and approve them. It's a power flex.
posted by jenfullmoon at 3:05 PM on December 23 [13 favorites]
posted by jenfullmoon at 3:05 PM on December 23 [13 favorites]
I’ve never seen an actual person resemble a cartoon character as much as Gaetz resembles Butt-Head of Beavis and Butt-Head.
posted by Lemkin at 3:10 PM on December 23 [24 favorites]
posted by Lemkin at 3:10 PM on December 23 [24 favorites]
I interpreted it differently. Gaetz stepped down from his congressional position right before the report was supposed to be released. That should have stopped the report from being released (you can read about this on the last page of the report). His "excuse" for stepping down was supposed to be able to be not that he was trying to avoid the report from being released, but that he was stepping down to take up a role in the administration. I think Attorney General is just a red herring - I feel like the appointments are random and just like throwing darts at a board. They should have instead made him head of the FDA or ambassador to China, and it would have probably gotten less attention.
posted by Toddles at 3:12 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
posted by Toddles at 3:12 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
Not the life Matt Gaetz was planning on (Elaine Godfrey, The Atlantic)
posted by box at 3:18 PM on December 23 [3 favorites]
posted by box at 3:18 PM on December 23 [3 favorites]
He already found a job with One America News Network (link to an AP article).
The Attorney General nomination reminds me that every Republican rapist pedophile deserves a second chance. Good to see OANN and Cameo stepping up to make things right.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 3:20 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
The Attorney General nomination reminds me that every Republican rapist pedophile deserves a second chance. Good to see OANN and Cameo stepping up to make things right.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 3:20 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
why Trump nominated him.
I think Attorney General is just a red herring - I feel like the appointments are random and just like throwing darts at a board.
For fuck's sake people, Trump is still not a Bond villain.
Gaetz has had his nose up Trump's ass for years, and I'm like 99% sure the AG nomination was right after Gaetz flew somewhere with Trump.
It's not a red herring but it's not 4-D chees either - Trump is willing to reward loyalty when it's easy, his brain is rotting so whoever gets some face time with him with an idea he likes gets what they want without further consideration, Gaetz was in front of him when he was considering who to nominate for AG, Gaetz said, "Why not me? You know I'm willing to back you up and shut down investigations." And Trump went, "Sure, great idea!!"
posted by soundguy99 at 3:45 PM on December 23 [37 favorites]
I think Attorney General is just a red herring - I feel like the appointments are random and just like throwing darts at a board.
For fuck's sake people, Trump is still not a Bond villain.
Gaetz has had his nose up Trump's ass for years, and I'm like 99% sure the AG nomination was right after Gaetz flew somewhere with Trump.
It's not a red herring but it's not 4-D chees either - Trump is willing to reward loyalty when it's easy, his brain is rotting so whoever gets some face time with him with an idea he likes gets what they want without further consideration, Gaetz was in front of him when he was considering who to nominate for AG, Gaetz said, "Why not me? You know I'm willing to back you up and shut down investigations." And Trump went, "Sure, great idea!!"
posted by soundguy99 at 3:45 PM on December 23 [37 favorites]
My vote is also "Gaetz was on the plane with Trump." Simple as that.
posted by BungaDunga at 3:52 PM on December 23 [8 favorites]
posted by BungaDunga at 3:52 PM on December 23 [8 favorites]
His pimp Joel Greenberg took a plea deal and got 11 years two years ago. This is his lawyer giving an interview after the sentencing.
I think we expect the federal government to take on the hard cases and not just the easy convictions. Mr Greenberg falls in the latter. His conduct was was obvious and it was blatant. It's not an easy case - it's shooting fish in a barrel. What's really going to test the mettle of our justice department and our democracy is their fortitude and pursuing others who are above them.
He goes on to state that Joel is continuing to cooperate with multiple open investigations as part of the sentencing agreement.
He was his pimp. He was the one finding the girls and bringing them to Matt, and he agreed to tell the feds everything. And yet nothing happened. This was two years ago. Legal Eagle report from the time.
Matt will not be prosecuted for any of this under the coming regime.
posted by adept256 at 4:00 PM on December 23 [6 favorites]
I think we expect the federal government to take on the hard cases and not just the easy convictions. Mr Greenberg falls in the latter. His conduct was was obvious and it was blatant. It's not an easy case - it's shooting fish in a barrel. What's really going to test the mettle of our justice department and our democracy is their fortitude and pursuing others who are above them.
He goes on to state that Joel is continuing to cooperate with multiple open investigations as part of the sentencing agreement.
He was his pimp. He was the one finding the girls and bringing them to Matt, and he agreed to tell the feds everything. And yet nothing happened. This was two years ago. Legal Eagle report from the time.
Matt will not be prosecuted for any of this under the coming regime.
posted by adept256 at 4:00 PM on December 23 [6 favorites]
They should have instead made him head of the FDA or ambassador to China, and it would have probably gotten less attention.
There are precedents. Rahm Emanuel former mayor of Chicago now ambassador to Japan.
William O'Dwyer former mayor of NYC then ambassador to Mexico.
Anyway, congressional reports are less interesting than legal discovery which could go in any number of directions. Something to think about.
posted by BWA at 4:06 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
There are precedents. Rahm Emanuel former mayor of Chicago now ambassador to Japan.
William O'Dwyer former mayor of NYC then ambassador to Mexico.
Anyway, congressional reports are less interesting than legal discovery which could go in any number of directions. Something to think about.
posted by BWA at 4:06 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
Matt wasn't prosecuted for any of this under the current regime, either.
I do hope that he makes good on his threat to reveal the names/behaviors of other Republicans who were at the same parties, sniffing the same coke and getting blown by the same hookers... because everyone who's ever been near those circles in DC knows that he is far from alone in this behavior.
posted by toxic at 4:07 PM on December 23 [10 favorites]
I do hope that he makes good on his threat to reveal the names/behaviors of other Republicans who were at the same parties, sniffing the same coke and getting blown by the same hookers... because everyone who's ever been near those circles in DC knows that he is far from alone in this behavior.
posted by toxic at 4:07 PM on December 23 [10 favorites]
I find it interesting that media outlets are typically using the phrase "sex with a minor" rather than statutory rape
Similar to as noted above - in Montana, the word "rape" does not appear in state law - it is called "sexual intercourse without consent." Media outlets are pretty consistent in using that term, or substituting "sexual assault," rather than the word "rape."
Not defending it, nor advocating it - just noting that new outlets generally need to/want to abide by the letter of the law when it comes to criminal stuff.
posted by davidmsc at 4:09 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
Similar to as noted above - in Montana, the word "rape" does not appear in state law - it is called "sexual intercourse without consent." Media outlets are pretty consistent in using that term, or substituting "sexual assault," rather than the word "rape."
Not defending it, nor advocating it - just noting that new outlets generally need to/want to abide by the letter of the law when it comes to criminal stuff.
posted by davidmsc at 4:09 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
The report itself does say this: "The Committee Found that Representative Gaetz Violated Florida’s Statutory Rape Law" on page 31.
posted by toxic at 4:13 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
posted by toxic at 4:13 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
Like many others, I'm baffled as to why 99.99999% of these repulsive sex-criming sleezebags are in the party of wholesome family values? I guess just a coincidence....
posted by WatTylerJr at 5:12 PM on December 23 [6 favorites]
posted by WatTylerJr at 5:12 PM on December 23 [6 favorites]
Can't say he wasn't 'judged guilty by his peers'....
posted by TDIpod at 5:47 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
posted by TDIpod at 5:47 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
Like many others, I'm baffled as to why 99.99999% of these repulsive sex-criming sleezebags are in the party of wholesome family values? I guess just a coincidence....
because that's not what "family values" means
posted by Pope Guilty at 6:04 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
because that's not what "family values" means
posted by Pope Guilty at 6:04 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
repulsive sex-criming sleezebags are in the party of wholesome family values?
well i mean that's how you get a family is you use money power and fame to entice girls much younger than you and if some of them give it up before they get that ring too bad for them they shouldn't have been dumb sl*ts and it's not your fault anyway men are just helpless before their base natures, says so right in the Bible.
posted by soundguy99 at 6:22 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
well i mean that's how you get a family is you use money power and fame to entice girls much younger than you and if some of them give it up before they get that ring too bad for them they shouldn't have been dumb sl*ts and it's not your fault anyway men are just helpless before their base natures, says so right in the Bible.
posted by soundguy99 at 6:22 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
I read about the report this morning. None of it surprises me. He is quintessential Florida Man.
I had a thought while reading the report this morning and thinking about the fact that he will bear no consequences whatsoever and likely be reappointed - Biden could publically “consider” a pardon for Gaetz; he could discuss his thoughts about the idea at intervals for the next couple of weeks or so, which would likely ensure it would stay firmly in the public eye for a while, and upstage Trump’s favor auction for Cabinet. Then right before he leaves office he could say the equivalent of “naaah, after careful consideration I think he should face consequences and this is why”.
I think in this era of surreal political trolling that would be fitting. Not to mention it would mess with Gaetz’s (and Trump’s) head… might be the only adverse outcome for him.
posted by cybrcamper at 6:37 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
I had a thought while reading the report this morning and thinking about the fact that he will bear no consequences whatsoever and likely be reappointed - Biden could publically “consider” a pardon for Gaetz; he could discuss his thoughts about the idea at intervals for the next couple of weeks or so, which would likely ensure it would stay firmly in the public eye for a while, and upstage Trump’s favor auction for Cabinet. Then right before he leaves office he could say the equivalent of “naaah, after careful consideration I think he should face consequences and this is why”.
I think in this era of surreal political trolling that would be fitting. Not to mention it would mess with Gaetz’s (and Trump’s) head… might be the only adverse outcome for him.
posted by cybrcamper at 6:37 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
Biden's pardon would be largely meaningless, I believe. The statutory rape accusation is a violation of a Florida state law, not a federal crime. I guess Biden could pardon him against future federal charges, but I can't begin to imagine why he would ever do so.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 6:54 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
posted by kittens for breakfast at 6:54 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
why isn't he in jail?
posted by kokaku at 7:02 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
posted by kokaku at 7:02 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
“ Biden's pardon would be largely meaningless, I believe.”
I never said he should actually pardon him… maybe I was too subtle. Just pretend to, loudly and publicly (and facetiously) in interviews and maybe a press conference, and then pull the rug out from under him at the end with a detailed explanation of why it would be a terrible idea. Doesn’t matter if state or federal charges really (the whole thing is beyond mattering anymore anyway) the idea is to get people talking about all the stuff he did and is getting away with for a while. Otherwise this goes down the tubes by next week and Gaetz gets sanewashed again.
A pardon of course would be terrible, but the conversation could be interesting for the reasons I mentioned.
posted by cybrcamper at 7:13 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
I never said he should actually pardon him… maybe I was too subtle. Just pretend to, loudly and publicly (and facetiously) in interviews and maybe a press conference, and then pull the rug out from under him at the end with a detailed explanation of why it would be a terrible idea. Doesn’t matter if state or federal charges really (the whole thing is beyond mattering anymore anyway) the idea is to get people talking about all the stuff he did and is getting away with for a while. Otherwise this goes down the tubes by next week and Gaetz gets sanewashed again.
A pardon of course would be terrible, but the conversation could be interesting for the reasons I mentioned.
posted by cybrcamper at 7:13 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
I'm curious how QAnon is handling this.
posted by lock robster at 7:49 PM on December 23 [3 favorites]
posted by lock robster at 7:49 PM on December 23 [3 favorites]
@BReed: the answer to both questions is … Republicans*wah-wah*
posted by JustSayNoDawg at 8:33 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
posted by JustSayNoDawg at 8:33 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
Is qanon still a thing? Seems quaint.from a simpler time.
posted by Keith Talent at 8:34 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
posted by Keith Talent at 8:34 PM on December 23 [1 favorite]
The section on the non-cooperation of the DoJ is amazing to me. First the delay the Congressional investigation, saying it would interfere with their own investigation. Eventually they get around to saying the won't charge him, but when the committee investigates they basically stonewall it, refusing to share any of their findings or even explain why they won't.
At least per the report. One valuable thing reporters could do is do some research and put that in context for us lay people. Is there some rule against the DoJ sharing with Congressional investigators? But as of now I'm just assuming it's more weird reluctance to hold elites accountable from Garland's department.
There will be no consequences, political or legal, for any of it.
Already, he literally left Congress and abandoned his AG bid because of this report.
posted by mark k at 9:04 PM on December 23 [8 favorites]
At least per the report. One valuable thing reporters could do is do some research and put that in context for us lay people. Is there some rule against the DoJ sharing with Congressional investigators? But as of now I'm just assuming it's more weird reluctance to hold elites accountable from Garland's department.
There will be no consequences, political or legal, for any of it.
Already, he literally left Congress and abandoned his AG bid because of this report.
posted by mark k at 9:04 PM on December 23 [8 favorites]
I'm baffled as to why 99.99999% of these repulsive sex-criming sleezebags are in the party of wholesome family values?
The serious answer to this is: because by "family values" they mean "cisheteropatriarchy", and the structural function of rape is, and has always been, enforcement of the cisheteropatriarchy. There is a reason why so many cops are also rapists.
posted by adrienneleigh at 10:09 PM on December 23 [4 favorites]
The serious answer to this is: because by "family values" they mean "cisheteropatriarchy", and the structural function of rape is, and has always been, enforcement of the cisheteropatriarchy. There is a reason why so many cops are also rapists.
posted by adrienneleigh at 10:09 PM on December 23 [4 favorites]
There will be no consequences, political or legal, for any of it.
A bipartisan committee decided this report should be released two days before Christmas. I think it's safe to say he has few friends in politics.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 10:24 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
A bipartisan committee decided this report should be released two days before Christmas. I think it's safe to say he has few friends in politics.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 10:24 PM on December 23 [2 favorites]
They should have instead made him head of the FDA or ambassador to China, and it would have probably gotten less attention.
There are precedents. Rahm Emanuel former mayor of Chicago now ambassador to Japan.
You'd think but Rahm still found a way to create a stupid international incident while in Japan. These kind of guys are a problem no matter where you put them.
posted by srboisvert at 3:19 AM on December 24
There are precedents. Rahm Emanuel former mayor of Chicago now ambassador to Japan.
You'd think but Rahm still found a way to create a stupid international incident while in Japan. These kind of guys are a problem no matter where you put them.
posted by srboisvert at 3:19 AM on December 24
Gaetz was unpopular in congress, hence his peers stabbing him in the back when he left (but putting party ahead of personal dispute when needing his votes).
Too many male voters not only don't care, but are envious. See Trump, Clinton, Menendez, etc.
Of course Mike Johnson's faith was no obstacle to him protecting Gaetz and working with him.
The hypocrisy of Speaker Johnson
is just is the n-billionth example of rhetorically paying respect to the expectation that religous people are more morally serious and upright. The maintenance of that misperception is an important defense of the rapists and facilitator of their abuse. Dog bites man.
You can't enforce laws against: rich people, politicians, republicans.
posted by No Climate - No Food, No Food - No Future. at 3:53 AM on December 24
Too many male voters not only don't care, but are envious. See Trump, Clinton, Menendez, etc.
Of course Mike Johnson's faith was no obstacle to him protecting Gaetz and working with him.
The hypocrisy of Speaker Johnson
is just is the n-billionth example of rhetorically paying respect to the expectation that religous people are more morally serious and upright. The maintenance of that misperception is an important defense of the rapists and facilitator of their abuse. Dog bites man.
You can't enforce laws against: rich people, politicians, republicans.
posted by No Climate - No Food, No Food - No Future. at 3:53 AM on December 24
I’ve never seen an actual person resemble a cartoon character as much as Gaetz resembles Butt-Head of Beavis and Butt-Head.
Yeah but Butthead was funny and made you laugh.
posted by DJZouke at 5:06 AM on December 24
Yeah but Butthead was funny and made you laugh.
posted by DJZouke at 5:06 AM on December 24
I don't think that's Rahm's fault so much as the government-wide policy of defending the second most evil nation on Earth to the hilt.
posted by jy4m at 5:13 AM on December 24
posted by jy4m at 5:13 AM on December 24
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I'm reading it now and am really disappointed at how often they are saying they asked the DOJ for something, and the DOJ refused to provide it.
posted by joannemerriam at 1:06 PM on December 23 [15 favorites]